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		<title>Letters, a Tailor, and a Trunk of Damaged Papers: Clark in St. Louis</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2026 01:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>September 24, 1806, at St. Louis. The only published daily journal for this date in this corpus is William Clark's. Patrick Gass's 1807 book, printed by David McKeehan, ends the previous day, 23 September, with the arrival at St. Louis;…</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>September 24, 1806, at St. Louis. The only published daily journal for this date in this corpus is William Clark&#8217;s. Patrick Gass&#8217;s 1807 book, printed by David McKeehan, ends the previous day, 23 September, with the arrival at St. Louis; there is no Gass for the 24th. John Ordway has no published journal_entry here, and Lewis left no separate daily of his own in this record. What follows is Clark&#8217;s day, in Clark&#8217;s sentences.</p>
<h2>Letters before noon</h2>
<p>Clark opens with a bad night and an early desk:</p>
<blockquote><p>I sleped but little last night however we rose early and Commencd wrighting our letters Capt. Lewis wrote one to the presidend and I wrote Govr. Harrison &amp; my friends in Kentucky and Sent of George Drewyer with those letters to Kohoka &amp; delivered them to Mr. Hays</p></blockquote>
<p>The first work of the recorded day in town is correspondence. &#8220;We rose early&#8221; and began writing; then the letters split. Lewis writes one letter, and Clark names the addressee only as &#8220;the presidend.&#8221; Clark writes to &#8220;Govr. Harrison&#8221; and to &#8220;my friends in Kentucky&#8221; — more than one letter on his side. He does not excerpt them. He does not say what Lewis reported, or what news went to Kentucky. The journal records that letters were written, who they were for, and who carried them.</p>
<p>The carrier is &#8220;George Drewyer,&#8221; sent to &#8220;Kohoka&#8221; to deliver the packet to &#8220;Mr. Hays.&#8221; Clark does not describe the crossing, the hour, or Hays&#8217;s office. Drewyer is simply the man who takes the letters. &#8220;Sent of&#8221; is how Clark writes the dispatch.</p>
<h2>Dinner, store, tailor</h2>
<p>The rest of the public day is two stops:</p>
<blockquote><p>we dined with Mr. Chotoux to day, and after dinner went to a Store and purchased Some Clothes, which we gave to a Tayler and derected to be made.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;We&#8221; dined; &#8220;we&#8221; bought clothes; the clothes went to a &#8220;Tayler&#8221; and were &#8220;derected to be made.&#8221; Clark names the host &#8220;Mr. Chotoux&#8221; and stops there. He lists no other guests, no dishes, no talk. He does not name the store. He does not say what garments they ordered — only &#8220;Some Clothes.&#8221; After the return down the Missouri, the entry&#8217;s concern is that cloth was bought and left to be sewn. That is the whole of the social record.</p>
<h2>The trunk</h2>
<p>The last sentence is the only note on the collections:</p>
<blockquote><p>Capt Lewis in opening his trunk found all his papers wet, and Some Seeds spoiled</p></blockquote>
<p>Clark writes &#8220;all his papers&#8221; and &#8220;Some Seeds.&#8221; He does not say when the water entered, which papers, which seeds, or whether anything remained dry. He records no attempt to dry or save them. Lewis, who opened the trunk, has no published daily here to qualify the loss. The line stands as Clark set it down: wet papers, spoiled seeds, after the tailor.</p>
<h2>What this page is not</h2>
<p>It is not a two-voice close. It is not Gass&#8217;s arrival scene, which in this corpus belongs to 23 September. It is not an Ordway walk through St. Louis. Clark chose a sleepless night, the writing of letters, Drewyer to Kohoka, a dinner, a store, a tailor, and a damaged trunk. The usual furniture of the upriver dailies — miles, courses, weather, game, names of nations — is absent. The expedition is in town. The journal has become a list of errands and one wet box of paper and seed.</p>
<p>Clark&#8217;s spellings are the day&#8217;s other record: &#8220;sleped,&#8221; &#8220;Commencd,&#8221; &#8220;wrighting,&#8221; &#8220;presidend,&#8221; &#8220;Kohoka,&#8221; &#8220;Chotoux,&#8221; &#8220;Tayler,&#8221; &#8220;derected.&#8221; He does not regularize them. This page follows that text and does not supply the missing pens.</p>
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		<title>Ninian Edwards in the Lewis &#038; Clark Journals: A Figure at the Margins of the Record</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2026 17:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>A Note on SourcesThe corpus of journal entries supplied for this synthesis contains zero references to Ninian Edwards. No narrator — not Meriwether Lewis, William Clark, Patrick Gass, John Ordway, Joseph Whitehouse, nor Charles Floyd — is recorded here as…</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>A Note on Sources</h2>
<p>The corpus of journal entries supplied for this synthesis contains zero references to Ninian Edwards. No narrator — not Meriwether Lewis, William Clark, Patrick Gass, John Ordway, Joseph Whitehouse, nor Charles Floyd — is recorded here as having named him. Any biographical sketch of Edwards drawn strictly from the Lewis and Clark journals must therefore acknowledge, at the outset, that the expedition&#8217;s daily record as preserved in this dataset is silent on the man.</p>
<p>Because the editorial brief for this series forbids speculation beyond the journal record, what follows is a careful accounting of that silence rather than a conventional biography. Readers seeking Edwards&#8217;s full life story — his Kentucky origins, his service as Chief Justice of the Kentucky Court of Appeals, his appointment by President James Madison as Governor of the Illinois Territory in 1809, his later U.S. Senate career, and his governorship of the State of Illinois — will need to consult sources outside the expedition journals.</p>
<h2>Why the Silence Is Plausible</h2>
<p>The chronological fit between Edwards&#8217;s public career and the expedition helps explain why the captains never wrote his name. The Corps of Discovery departed Camp Dubois in May 1804 and returned to St. Louis in September 1806. During that entire window, Ninian Edwards held no federal office connected to the Louisiana Purchase territory. His appointment as territorial governor of Illinois did not come until 1809, three years after Lewis and Clark had completed their journey and submitted their reports. The expedition&#8217;s correspondence with territorial officials during the journey was directed instead to figures such as Amos Stoddard at St. Louis, and ultimately to President Jefferson and Secretary of War Henry Dearborn.</p>
<p>The journals, when they do name civil officials, tend to do so at moments of departure, resupply, or return — the bookends of the expedition where the Corps interfaced with the settled administrative world. Edwards was simply not yet part of that world in any capacity that would have brought him into the captains&#8217; orbit.</p>
<h2>What the Journals Record Instead</h2>
<p>Where one might expect to find a territorial governor named, the journals supply other figures. The handoff of Upper Louisiana from Spanish to French to American authority in March 1804 was managed by Stoddard, whose name does appear in the captains&#8217; correspondence and in Clark&#8217;s Camp Dubois notations. The Indian agents, traders, and military officers who appear by name — Pierre Chouteau, Auguste Chouteau, James Wilkinson, and others — were the men actually positioned along the Missouri frontier during the expedition&#8217;s active years.</p>
<p>This pattern is consistent with how the journals function as documents. Lewis and Clark wrote what they saw, whom they met, and whose dispatches they received. They were not chroniclers of stateside political appointments that occurred after their return. By the time Edwards became a name to reckon with in Illinois affairs, the journals had been closed and their authors had moved on — Lewis to his governorship of Upper Louisiana and his death in 1809, Clark to his long career as Indian agent and later Governor of Missouri Territory.</p>
<h2>The Edwards–Clark Connection Outside the Journals</h2>
<p>It bears noting — though only as context for the silence, not as journal content — that Ninian Edwards and William Clark would later become contemporaries in the administration of the western territories, with overlapping responsibilities for Indian affairs during and after the War of 1812. Any documentary record of their interaction belongs to Clark&#8217;s post-expedition correspondence and to territorial papers, not to the expedition journals themselves. This synthesis cannot draw on those sources under its present brief.</p>
<h2>Narrators Cited</h2>
<p>None. No narrator in the supplied corpus mentions Ninian Edwards.</p>
<h2>Direct Quotations from the Journals</h2>
<p>None can be offered. Because no entry in the dataset references Edwards, there is no primary-source passage to reproduce in blockquote form. To fabricate or paraphrase a passage would violate the evidentiary standard of this series.</p>
<h2>Assessing the Absence</h2>
<p>It is tempting, when assembling a biographical entry, to fill silence with inference. The discipline of working strictly from the journal record, however, requires that absence be reported as absence. Ninian Edwards&#8217;s non-appearance in the Lewis and Clark journals is not a puzzle requiring resolution; it is a straightforward consequence of timing. He was not yet the man history remembers when the captains were writing, and the captains were no longer writing when he became that man.</p>
<p>For researchers using this synthesis as an entry point, the practical implication is this: to study Edwards in relation to the expedition&#8217;s legacy — its aftermath in Illinois country, its consequences for Indian policy in the territory he would govern, its place in the broader American occupation of the Mississippi watershed — one must turn from the journals to the Edwards Papers, to the Territorial Papers of the United States, and to the correspondence files of William Clark in his post-expedition role as Superintendent of Indian Affairs at St. Louis.</p>
<h2>Conclusion</h2>
<p>This entry is, by necessity, a record of what the journals do not say. Sources for Ninian Edwards within the Lewis and Clark expedition record, as represented in the dataset provided, are wholly sparse — indeed, they are absent. Future supplementation of the corpus with letters, reports, or marginalia not currently tagged to Edwards may alter this picture. Until then, the honest synthesis is the silent one.</p>
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		<title>Auguste Chouteau: St. Louis Patron of the Corps of Discovery</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>IntroductionAuguste Chouteau (1749–1829), co-founder of St. Louis and patriarch of its dominant mercantile family, is woven throughout the Lewis and Clark journals less as a participant than as a constant background presence: outfitter, host, correspondent, and proprietor of trading expeditions…</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Introduction</h2>
<p>Auguste Chouteau (1749–1829), co-founder of St. Louis and patriarch of its dominant mercantile family, is woven throughout the Lewis and Clark journals less as a participant than as a constant background presence: outfitter, host, correspondent, and proprietor of trading expeditions whose boats the Corps repeatedly crossed on the Missouri. The journal record does not describe his life or person; it shows him in his commercial and civic role as the expedition&#8217;s principal St. Louis connection. Where the journals are silent on his biography, this synthesis remains silent as well.</p>
<h2>Outfitting at the Mouth of the Missouri (May 1804)</h2>
<p>Chouteau&#8217;s name first enters the record during the expedition&#8217;s final preparations at River Dubois and St. Charles. On <strong>May 18, 1804</strong>, William Clark recorded the receipt of tobacco from Chouteau&#8217;s account as the boats were being reloaded:</p>
<blockquote><p>I had the Boat &amp; Pierogue reloded So as to Cause them to be heavyer in bow than asturn recved of Mr. Lyon 136 lb. Tobacco on act. of Mr. Choteau Gave out tin Cups &amp; 3 Knives to the French hands…</p></blockquote>
<p>Two days later, on <strong>May 20, 1804</strong>, Clark listed Chouteau among the &quot;Officers &amp; Several Gentlemen of St Louis&quot; who arrived at St. Charles in a heavy shower:</p>
<blockquote><p>Capt. Lewis Capt. Stoddard accompanied by the Officers &amp; Several Gentlemen of St Louis arrived in a heavy Showr of Rain Mssr. Lutenants Minford &amp; Werness. Mr. Choteau Grattiot, Deloney, Laber Dee Ranken Dr. SoDrang…</p></blockquote>
<p>Meriwether Lewis, in his own entry of <strong>May 20, 1804</strong>, named him more formally as &quot;A. Chouteau&quot; and recorded the social farewell that bracketed the expedition&#8217;s departure:</p>
<blockquote><p>I was joined by Capt. Stoddard, Lieuts. Milford &amp; Worrell together with Messrs. A. Chouteau, C. Gratiot, and many other respectable inhabitants of St. Louis, who had engaged to accompany me to the Vilage of St. Charles…</p></blockquote>
<p>Lewis&#8217;s same entry also records his &quot;affectionate adieu&quot; to the spouse of <em>Pierre</em> Chouteau (Auguste&#8217;s half-brother), a reminder that several Chouteaus circulated through the expedition&#8217;s St. Louis world.</p>
<h2>Chouteau&#8217;s Reach into Indian Country</h2>
<p>The journals show that Chouteau&#8217;s commercial influence ran far up the Missouri and into the Osage country. On <strong>May 31, 1804</strong>, Clark recorded news brought down to the Corps from the Grand Osage by a courier returning to St. Louis:</p>
<blockquote><p>a Cajaux of Bear Skins and pelteries came down from the Grand Osarge, one french man one Indian, and a Squar, they had letters from the man Mr. Choteau Sent to that part of the Osarge Nation Settled on Arkansa River mentioning that his letter was Commited to the flaims, the Inds. not believeing that the Americans had possession of the Countrey they disregarded St Louis &amp; their Supplies…</p></blockquote>
<p>This passage is the journal record&#8217;s most substantive glimpse of Chouteau&#8217;s diplomatic-commercial role: he was attempting, even as the Corps moved upriver, to communicate American sovereignty to Osage bands that had migrated to the Arkansas — and his letter had been burned.</p>
<h2>Encounters on the River (1804)</h2>
<p>Joseph Whitehouse twice recorded the same encounter, dated <strong>June 9, 1804</strong> in one rendering and <strong>June 12, 1804</strong> in another, in which the Corps met a flotilla of his peltry boats descending the Missouri:</p>
<blockquote><p>Met with 7 peirogues. Loaded with peltry for Cap&#8217;^o Chatto [Chouteau] in S! Louis Our men of Each Craft Exchang&#8217;d Blankets for Buffalow Robes &amp; Mockisons…</p></blockquote>
<p>The note&#8217;s editorial gloss identifies &quot;Chatto&quot; as Chouteau, and the encounter shows the scale of his returns: seven loaded pirogues bound for St. Louis from the upper river.</p>
<h2>Geographic Echoes</h2>
<p>The Chouteau name is also affixed to the country itself. John Ordway&#8217;s editor identifies <strong>Chouteau Creek</strong> on <strong>September 6, 1804</strong> (&quot;Modern Chouteau Creek, which empties into the Missouri near the western boundary of Bonhomme County, S. Dak.&quot;) and again on <strong>September 24, 1804</strong>. The same family name attaches to <strong>Chouteau County</strong> in Montana, repeatedly noted as a geographic landmark in Ordway&#8217;s entries of <strong>May 20, 1805</strong>, <strong>June 15, 1805</strong>, <strong>June 17, 1805</strong>, and <strong>August 1, 1806</strong>. These are place-name references rather than personal appearances, but they testify to how thoroughly the family&#8217;s commercial reach mapped onto the territory the expedition was crossing.</p>
<h2>Re-encounters on the Return Voyage (September 1806)</h2>
<p>The richest cluster of Chouteau references comes on the descent of the Missouri, when the Corps repeatedly met traders working out of St. Louis under his auspices. On <strong>September 6, 1806</strong>, Clark wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>at the lower point of Pelecan Island a little above the Petite River de Seeoux we met a tradeing boat of Mr. Ag. Choteaux of St Louis bound to the River Jacque to trade with the Yanktons, this boat was in Care of a Mr. Henry Delorn… we purchased a gallon of whiskey of this man and gave to each man of the party a dram which is the first Spiritious licquor which had been tasted by any of them Since the 4 of July 1805.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the journals&#8217; clearest identification — &quot;Mr. Ag. Choteaux of St Louis&quot; — confirming Auguste (rather than Pierre) as the proprietor. Ordway&#8217;s entry of the same day, edited under the name <strong>September 10, 1806</strong>, supplies the editorial footnote &quot;Auguste Chouteau&quot; explicitly.</p>
<p>Encounters multiplied as the Corps neared St. Louis. Ordway, on <strong>September 12, 1806</strong>, recorded:</p>
<blockquote><p>we met 2 two canoes and 11 frenchman 1 of which was loaded with Mr Shotoes [Chouteau&#8217;s] goods from S&#8217; Louis the others going up trapping…</p></blockquote>
<p>Clark&#8217;s parallel entry for <strong>September 12, 1806</strong> identified the destination: &quot;one contained the property of Mr. Choteau bound to the panias on River Platt&quot; — a Pawnee-bound trading venture on the Platte. Each meeting offered news of home, gifts of whiskey, and confirmation that Chouteau&#8217;s network was actively pushing trade up every tributary the expedition had explored.</p>
<h2>Homecoming in St. Louis</h2>
<p>The final, and most personal, journal mention comes on <strong>September 25, 1806</strong>, two days after the Corps&#8217;s arrival. Clark wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>had all of our Skins &amp;c. Suned and Stored away in a Storeroom of Mr. Caddy Choteau. payed Some visits of form, to the gentlemen of St. Louis. in the evening a dinner &amp; Ball</p></blockquote>
<p>&quot;Caddy&quot; here is generally read as a familiar form for Auguste (the editorial conventions of the period sometimes rendered his name in such variants). The expedition&#8217;s ethnographic and natural-history collections — the very tangible product of two and a half years&#8217; labor — were lodged in his storeroom. It is a fitting bookend: Chouteau&#8217;s tobacco helped load the boats in May 1804, and Chouteau&#8217;s storehouse received the skins in September 1806.</p>
<h2>What the Journals Do Not Say</h2>
<p>The journal record, taken on its own terms, contains no description of Chouteau&#8217;s appearance, no record of conversation with him, and no portrait of his household beyond Lewis&#8217;s brief farewell to the wife of his half-brother Pierre. He is named eight or nine times directly and is implied in many more references to &quot;Mr. Choteau&#8217;s&quot; boats, goods, employees, and accounts. What the journals preserve is his <em>function</em>: the commercial and civic infrastructure that made the expedition possible at its outset, sustained American claims to the Osage country during its absence, populated the river with traders during its return, and received its specimens at journey&#8217;s end.</p>
<h2>Narrators</h2>
<p>Auguste Chouteau is mentioned by William Clark, Meriwether Lewis, John Ordway, and Joseph Whitehouse — every principal journal-keeper of the expedition save Patrick Gass in the entries surveyed here. The convergence is itself revealing: no other St. Louis civilian touches the record at so many points or from so many hands.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Teaser: Francois Rivet had a long life before and after his time with the Corps of Discovery. Marked by joy and sadness, momentous events in the life of Francois Rivet were found in the records of his Catholic parish. After the Expedition – Francois Rivet Born circa 1757 in Montreal, Canada,...</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Born circa 1757 in Montreal, Canada, Francois Rivet joined the expedition in 1804. Rivet appeared to be a rather robust and active member of the expedition, adept at helping morale. Rivet was known for dancing on his head (Ordway, November 27, 1804). Rivet’s joie de vivre may explain his long life. Rivet passed away at the approximate age of 95 on September 27, 1852, and was buried two days later in St. Paul, Oregon in the Williamette Valley (Munnick p. 50). Present was one son of Francois, Antoine. Joseph Rivet, Francois’ other son, passed away earlier in the year (Munnick, p. 46b) due to alcoholism (Munnick, A-85). Rivet’s widow, Therese Flathead passed away shortly after Francois. She was buried on October 13, 1852. Her son, Antoine was a witness (Munnick, p.51).</p>
<p>According to the archives of the St. Paul Catholic church in St. Paul, Oregon, Rivet had been hunting and trapping for 20 years prior to the expedition. Then, from 1813 to 1824, Rivet worked as an interpreter and hunter (Tubbs &amp; Jenkinson). Rivet had a reported third son in 1816, Francois Jr. (Watson). In 1824, Rivet served as an interpreter for Alexander Ross’ Snake Country Expedition (Elliot). Afterward, he arrived in Oregon to interpret for the Hudson Bay Company and act as “kind of a hedge blacksmith” at Fort Colville in what is now Kettle Falls, Washington (Munnick, A-85). Francois’ youngest son died in 1830 on a Snake River bound expedition, drowning in a whirlpool in the Dalles (Watson). In 1839, Rivet took a claim south of St. Paul (Munnick, A-85; Tubbs &amp; Jenkinson). By accounts of the church archives, Rivet became active in the community.</p>
<p>The Catholic Church recognized Francois Rivet’s marriage to Therese Flathead [<em>Tete</em> <em>Platte</em> in French, (Jackson)] in 1838 (Tubbs &amp; Jenkinson), and there is evidence to suggest that Francois and Therese may have originally married in late 1782 (Rivet). Rivet met Therese when she was a young 19-year-old widow with a baby girl (Jackson). Rivet was Therese’ second husband. Her first husband was killed in battle against the Blackfeet (Flora &amp; Courchane). Therese brought her baby daughter, Julia into her marriage with Rivet (Jackson), and Julia took Rivet’s name (Phillips). On July 13, 1840, Rivet was the Godfather to Archange Tyelis, a middle-aged Indian woman who was baptized (Munnick, p. 7), and another infant girl of mixed descent (Munnick, p. 20) later that year. On November 29, 1840, Rivet was again Godfather to a teenage girl, Catherine Hu (Munnick, p. 16). Rivet also served as a witness for three marriages (Munnick, pgs 59, 67, 86) and was present for the burial of a Joseph PendOreille (Munnick, p. 35). Even though Rivet was mentioned briefly on 13 occasions in the Lewis and Clark journals, one can gather a sufficient idea as to who the man was. In fact, Rivet’s active life full of love and loss served as inspiration for a fictional account of his life in <em>The Gates of the Mountains</em> (Henry).</p>
<p>Reference</p>
<p>Elliott, Thompson C. &#8220;Journal of Alexander Ross—Snake Country Expedition, 1824.&#8221; <em>The Quarterly of the Oregon Historical Society</em>, vol. 14, no. 4, (1913): 366-385.</p>
<p>Flora, Stephanie, and Chalk Courchaine. “Peter Skene Ogden: Pioneer of 1817.” Retrieved from http://www.oregonpioneers.com/bios/PeterSkeneOgden_1817.pdf&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjCieDtrd32AhWKD0QIHcmXAL8QFnoECAQQAQ&amp;usg=AOvVaw0GvUoAIxcGc0tBzmheCXOe</p>
<p>Henry, Will. <em>The Gates of the Mountains</em>. NewYork, Random House, 1963.</p>
<p>Jackson, John C. “Old Rivet.” <em>The Magazine of Northwest History</em> vol.18, no. 2 (2004): 1-7</p>
<p>Munnick, Harriet Duncan. 1979. <em>Catholic Church Records of the Pacific Northwest: St. Paul, Oregon 1839-1898</em>. Binford &amp; Mort: Portland, Oregon</p>
<p>Phillips, Lisa. &#8220;Transitional Identities: Negotiating Social Transitions in the Pacific NW 1825-1860s.&#8221; <em>Canadian Political Science Review</em>, vol 2, no. 2, (2008): 21-40.</p>
<p>Rivet, Tom. “François Rivet (1754 &#8211; 1852).” <em>Wikitree</em>, 2014, https://www.wikitree.com/ wiki/Rivet-234.</p>
<p>Tubbs, Stephenie Ambrose, and Clay Jenkinson. <em>The Lewis and Clark Companion: An Encyclopedic Guide to the Voyage of Discovery</em>. Macmillan, 2003.</p>
<p>Watson, Bruce McIntyre. <em>Lives Lived West of the Divide: A Biographical Dictionary of Fur Traders Working West of the Rockies, 1793-1858</em>. The University of British Columbia, 2010.</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Striking out with his mother Sacagawea and the Corps of Discovery, Jean Baptiste Charbonneau played a unique role in the Lewis and Clark expedition. Having a child along with the expedition served as a form of diplomacy, as potentially hostile Native Americans welcomed the expedition upon realizing the corps had a child in tow (Anderson). Adopted by Clark shortly after the expedition, Jean Baptiste was educated in St. Louis. Charbonneau left for Germany in 1823 to work for Prince Paul of Wurttemberg. Charbonneau became a polyglot, adding English, French, Spanish, and German to several native languages that he spoke (Colby). Charbonneau returned to the U.S. in 1829 (Courchane) and entered the service of the American Fur Company (Historical Society, Utah State).</p>
<p>There is scant evidence of Charbonneau’s whereabouts in the years following his return from Europe. According to Reading, Charbonneau evidently helped find some lost horses for an employee of the American Fur Company. By the fall of 1830, he and his party became lost around American Falls, ID. He set out to find water and spent 11 days trying to relocate his party, only to find that they had been rescued by a Hudson Bay Company employee that came upon them (Historical Society, Utah State). Later, he helped Joseph Meek deliver a dispatch to St. Louis. According to Nathaniel Wyeth, Charbonneau was with Jim Bridger in 1832 (Reading). Jim Bridger was a noted mountain man, trapper, Army scout, and later owner of the Rocky Mountain Fur Company. Later that year, Charbonneau traveled to Blackfoot country to trap beaver. William Smith wrote that a “Mr. Shabenare” traveled down the Platte River carrying pelts to St. Louis in 1839-40 (Reading). From 1842 to 1845, Charbonneau served at Bent’s Fort in St. Louis (Reading).</p>
<p>R. B. Sage, a 19th century American writer and journalist, commented on the man Charbonneau. He wrote that Charbonneau “proved to be a gentleman of superior information.” Commenting on his intelligence and multilingualism, Sage continued:</p>
<p>His mind, also, was well stored with choice reading, and enriched by extensive travel and observation. Having visited most of the important places, both in England, France, and Germany, he knew how to turn his experience to good advantage. There was a quaint humor and shrewdness in his conversation, so garbed with intelligence and perspicuity, that he at once insinuated himself into the good graces of listeners, and commanded their admiration and respect (Historical Society, Utah State).</p>
<p>One notable assignment was as a guide for the Mormon Battalion, in 1846, during the Mexican-American War. President Polk then instructed Secretary of War William Marcy to prepare the orders for the formation of a battalion of volunteers from among the Mormons in Iowa. The President hoped to “attach them to our country and prevent them from taking part against us” (Polk). The battalion set out in July of that year.</p>
<p>In August 1846, the battalion mustered under the command of Lieutenant Colonel James Allen. However, Allen would not go with the battalion, for he passed away from congestive fever on August 31, 1846 (Missouri Republican). Lieutenant Colonel Cooke later assumed command of the march in New Mexico. Shortly thereafter, Jean Baptiste Charbonneau joined the battalion as a guide on their journey to San Diego, California. On December 9, 1846, the Mormon Battalion crossed the San Pedro River in what is now Cochise County, Arizona.</p>
<p>Several days later, the Mormon Battalion arrived at another spot along the San Pedro River. Charbonneau would have been with the battalion during the only battle that the Mormon Battalion faced. During one event on December 12, 1846, the marchers came upon a herd of wild bulls. Sergeant Tyler described the events, which later came to be known as the Battle of the Bulls:</p>
<p>One small lead mule in a team was thrown on the horns of a bull over its mate on the near side, and the near mule, now on the off side and next to the bull, was gored. . .. One or two pack-mules were also killed. The end-gates of one or two wagons were stove in, and the sick, who were riding in them, were of course frightened. Some of the men climbed upon the wheels of the wagons and poured deadly fire into the enemy’s ranks. Some threw themselves down and allowed the beasts to run over them; others fired and dodged behind mezquit [sic] brush to re-load their guns, while the beasts kept them dodging to keep out of the way. Others, still, climbed up in small trees, there being now and then one available.</p>
<p>Brother Amos Cox was thrown about ten feet into the air, while a gore from three or four inches in length and about two or three in depth was cut in the inside of his thigh near its junction with the body. Sanderson sewed up the wound. Cox was an invalid for a long time, but finally recovered (Porter).</p>
<p>After guiding the Mormon Battalion to their destination in San Diego, California, Charbonneau held a number of jobs. For a short time in 1847 to 1848, he was mayor of San Luis Rey, north of San Diego. Because he refused to enforce the same harsh policies toward Native Americans than his predecessors did, Charbonneau grew frustrated and resigned his position (Historical Society, Utah State). In 1866, he joined the rush to mine gold in Montana. However, he died en route and was buried at Inskip Station, Oregon. Jean Baptiste Charbonneau, through a life of adventure during westward expansion across North America, left an indelible mark on American history.</p>
<h2>References</h2>
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<li>Anderson, Irving W. &#8220;Sacajawea, Sacagawea, Sakakawea?.&#8221; South Dakota History 8.4 (1978): 303-311.</li>
<li>Colby, Susan M. Sacagawea&#8217;s Child: The Life and Times of Jean-Baptiste (Pomp) Charbonneau. University of Oklahoma Press, 2014.</li>
<li>Courchane, Chalk. “Toussaint Charbonneau in the Pacific North in 1805.” Retrieved from http://www.oregonpioneers.com/bios/ToussaintCharbonneau.pdf&amp;ved=2ahUKEwj4-rrtjlP3AhX2KEQIHdPKABcQFnoECAQQAQ&amp;usg=AOvVaw3j3dzoY1_yayzV3-_1u3Fi</li>
<li>Daily Missouri Republican (Saint Louis, Mo.: 1837) Daily Missouri Republican. St. Louis, Mo.: Charles &amp; Paschall, 1837-1869. Vol. 15, no. 1168 (Mar. 14, 1837)-v. 47, no. 13 (Jan. 14, 1869).</li>
<li>Polk, James Knox. The diary of James K. Polk during his presidency, 1845 to 1849. Vol. 6. Kraus Reprint, 1910.</li>
<li>Porter, Larry C. “The Church and the Mexican-American War.&#8221; Nineteenth Century Saints at War, edited by Robert C. Freeman, Religious Studies Center, BYU, 2006, 41-76.</li>
<li>Reading, June. “Jean Baptiste Charbonneau.&#8221; The Journal of San Diego History. vol. 11, no. 2, (1965). Retrieved from https://sandiegohistory.org/journal/1965/march/charbonneau/</li>
<li>Ritter, Michael Lance. Jean Baptiste Charbonneau, Man of Two Worlds. CreateSpace Publishing, 2004.</li>
<li>Sorensen, Stephen B. (2008) &#8220;History May Be Searched in Vain: A Military History of the Mormon Battalion by Sherman L. Fleek,&#8221; BYU Studies Quarterly, vol. 47, no. 2, article 12, 161-66. (Book review by Sherman Fleek)</li>
<li>Historical Society, Utah State. Jean Baptiste Charbonneau. February 11, 1805 – May 16, 1866. Number 428. Idaho Commission for Libraries: Boise, ID. (2008). Retrieved from https://utah-primoprod.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/primo-explore/fulldisplay?docid =digcoll_icl_ 39p16293coll3%2F5562&amp;context=L&amp;vid=MWDL&amp;lang=en_US&amp; search_scope=mw &amp;adaptor=Local%20Search%20Engine&amp;tab=default_tab&amp;query=any ,contains,Jean%20Baptiste%20Charbonneau&amp;offset=0</li>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh you&#8217;re so quiet and timid we got to get you together get you focused we&#8217;re going to have a speaker so we I get ready so everybody hands on your knees eyes forward 1 2 3 good morning boys and girls good morning all right good morning good to see you glad you can be here you are now the tense of many voices and this is called core Discovery 2 and we are traveling National mobile exhibit we&#8217;ve been traveling all over the country we&#8217;ve seen so many places since we started out we started out in the year 2003 in the home of Thomas Jefferson in monachello in Virginia and we&#8217;ve been traveling all the way across the country and we finally reached the ocean and next year we&#8217;ll be coming all the way back and we&#8217;ll end up in St Louis that&#8217;s where Louis and Clark were 200 years ago and we&#8217;ll finish up there in September 23 2006 now here in this Mobile T what we do is we have a lot of presenters and speakers they come from all over the country to tell their story and interpretation of lwis and Clark we have native presenters such as singers and dancers and Poets we have Scholars people that have studied lisis and Clark they take the old um journals and they research them every day and they look at them so we have a lot of different people that come to this tent and tell the story of Louis and Clark so here today we have a special presenter we have Mike iel he&#8217;s a director of Natural Resources Council for the CIS tribe he&#8217;s also the vice chair of the tribal council so let&#8217;s give a nice warm welcome put your hands together for Mike AEL good morning good morning uh going to tell you some things you probably know and some stuff you don&#8217;t know uh first start out by welcoming you to ket&#8217;s Country um some of you may not be aware but before after it was CET country you are in Prince rubberland you didn&#8217;t know that one yeah Prince rubberland you&#8217;re part of Great Britain right here you&#8217;re in you&#8217;re you&#8217;re English now and then later on this would become part of Oregon over there except this was part of Oregon too and later on after that it would become Washington territory a part of Nebraska so in just a few moments we&#8217;ve gone from England to Oregon to Nebraska we&#8217;re back to Washington he didn&#8217;t even feel like you moved so anyway I&#8217;ll start out with a little bit of History uh in 1827 Governor Simpson said skena track runs from off the pet sound and Strikes the Colombia near point bellw skena was the college Chief and skena was the high chief cic were a little unusual in that we had 20,000 people many different villages with one Chief one high chief and that was skena he was my great great grandfather uh later on Governor Stevens would call skena track the C Trail and so you&#8217;re at the southern end of this the cets trail we were Traders we we like to trade uh our money in a long time ago was a special little shell called the dent talum and that little shell was also called hiqua and that was our money and it was exchanged in in what they called a fathom which was like 3 ft long and a fathom of the large shells was worth a huge amount of money and we know that that those little shells had great value because in South Dakota which is over over here right in here clear over there they had our dentum shells and we know that because the spiral flute D taum shell comes from only one place in the world and it&#8217;s right up the map right here on the Northern point of Vancouver Island and the queen Charlottes it&#8217;s the only place in the world that little shell comes from and I&#8217;ve talked to people from uh Connecticut that tell me that they have Den talum shells there as well so Vancouver was a trading post hundreds if not thousands of years before Lewis and Clark got here when Lewis and Clark came here they said said that this was a Marketplace equal to any in the world they saw people with sailor suits rifles pistols metal pots all things that they&#8217; got from Europeans when Lewis and Clark came down the river and one of the big things that I have to laugh at my ancestors is we didn&#8217;t pick up on the significance of a boat loaded tour us coming down the river we&#8217;d seen people come up the river but we never realized anything important would be from somebody coming down the river so when you look at the map you see that me they came from here we&#8217;d seen people come from the ocean but we didn&#8217;t realize that they came from the other ocean too and that&#8217;s something that we didn&#8217;t realize so we&#8217;ll move on uh we traded and we traded from Canada down to California and in to the mountains of Idaho that&#8217;s how far we traveled uh I know that leis and Clark never met my ancestors because skena and all his sons were were large tall men for the time they were all over 6 foot tall Captain Clark was a very tall man he was 6ot and he would have noticed if there were tall indans there so I know that he didn&#8217;t meet them because our uh tribal history said that skena was away in business in in Canada when Louis and Clark came through so we know that that that those people didn&#8217;t meet with them so now I need to to talk about what did we eat well we ate salmon we had deer elk wapo Camas and berries and we would the fish came to us it was pretty neat setup really we grew the the the cus and the wapo and uh we would go to the mountains and pick the berries our tribe had a a special arrangement with the akamas we would trade salmon on the cetz river for berries on Mount Adams which today it seems kind of funny but at the time salmon were almost as common of sand on the beach and we could get berries for those salmon so uh and we had berries and we were able to preserve our food something that Louis and Clark couldn&#8217;t do you guys know that uh were Louis and Clark really hungry when they got hairs anybody know that yeah they were starving all the time they got here because they didn&#8217;t have the ability to preserve their food we preserved our food and we were able to do it better than than they would and uh as a result when they come into our villages we were able to serve them meals and we gave them berries we gave them berries in November and December like right now we were able to go and pull them out of the cupboard and there was some nice fresh you know berries that we could serve up for our guests so that was that was how we what we ate and that was how we preserved our food we had large houses some of the houses were huge they&#8217;re like modern apartment houses the uh large bigger uh plank houses were 200 ft long that&#8217;s almost as big as a football field and inside those houses there&#8217;d be partitions to where there would be each family would live inside the house just like an apartment house today and some of those houses were called plank houses and some were called long houses it just depended on where you lived but they were made out of boards and they were easily bigger than this tent and uh they were warm and comfortable houses so I already posed a question did we meet with Lewis and Clark and the answer is Maybe uh Lewis and Clark called us scutes which when you say callets and scutes uh it could well be uh because it&#8217;s really important to know that that the way we set our words the pronunciation of of Indian words was impossible for the Europeans and the Europeans their words were impossible for us to say so we had this case to where we couldn&#8217;t communicate so we had to guess and Lois and Clark called us scutes they called us huel and ketc now ketc means place of the cets and place of the cets is right here on the CET River and the Lewis River and along the Columbia River now for a very very long time I had read and I&#8217;d studied and i&#8217; i&#8217; even seen that one of the the great historians had misunderstood kitc he thought it meant River of the Kitz but once you understand that kitc means a place of the CET then it can be applied to more than one River and uh Lewis and Clark said of us we hear they are numerous they said that a couple different times and how numerous were we we were one of the biggest tribes in the Northwest we were 20,000 and uh we look right here see off the Puget Sound is Olympia and down here to point bellw is the Confluence of the wamit in the Columbia so we lived between Olympia and Portland and out to the West we lived out to Modern Raymond down through the wipa hills to the Columbia and then back up the the Columbia River to the Wind River and up the Cascades up to mount reineer and then over to Olympia it was a huge area we were a very large tribe and we had a huge amount of area so that&#8217;s that&#8217;s who we were that&#8217;s where we lived after Lewis and Clark the fur Traders came and our his our history said that our chief went to Fort George and Fort George is down right here by the mouth of the Columbia we call it asoria today and our chief went to the to the fur Traders and said I don&#8217;t like traveling this far can you move your your Trading Post closer to home and the Trading Post closer to home is here so the reason that Vancouver is here is because our chief went to Fort George and asked the fur traders to relocate closer to home and that closer to home became Vancouver so that&#8217;s that&#8217;s our connection with this area and after the fur Traders came then the settlers moved in and there were Indian Wars and during the Indian Wars our people joined the army my name my first name is Francis and I was I took me a long time to get used to that name and then I found out that that my first name is really someone else&#8217;s last name because my great-grandfather served with a lieutenant Francis in the Indian Wars and that name came into the family and he named his son my grandfather and then my father had the name and now me so I my first name is actually somebody else&#8217;s last name after the Indian Wars we we resisted signing a treaty after we had fought the wars the settler or the the United States wanted us to go live on the reservation and turn in our guns and go live with the people that we just defeated we didn&#8217;t think that&#8217;d be a good idea so we told them no and then at a later date we decided we&#8217;re going to have to to struggle for a recognition and prove who we are and we had a chief his name was atan stockham and he was appointed Chief by Lieutenant ulyses Grant and just right over here is Grant house and uh ulyses Grant made Antoine stockham the chief of the colge and atan started the the fight for recognition and 150 years later we finished that fight for recognition and we we were granted status that&#8217;s special to us it&#8217;s called acknowledged it means we knew you were here but now we understand that you really are the cat&#8217;s people and that was our history up to now so what do we do today well I&#8217;m director of Natural Resources Department today I have two dams in Rel lensing one on the callets one on the Lewis we&#8217;re working on salmon tracking on the toodle River and uh I&#8217;ve got biologists working for me that are checking gear for chronic wasting disease we&#8217;re checking Goose populations for their health we&#8217;re working to uh restore salmon passages to different areas and uh we&#8217;re working to protect cultural resources right here this bridge that&#8217;s if you could look out and see it just right you&#8217;d see there&#8217;s a bridge across the Columbia River that&#8217;s going to be replaced and when that&#8217;s replaced it&#8217;s going to disrupt a whole bunch of of uh surface and under that surface because people lived here for maybe 10,000 years there will be the the graves of of people so that&#8217;s things that we do so if anyone has any questions I&#8217;d be happy to answer it if you have a question what I do is I come to you after you raise your hand and then you ask the question and everyone can hear it so go ahead raise your hand if you have a question for Mike clat of people were did did they who was their last Chief or who was the courage I don&#8217;t know the name of the last chief of the classup but I can tell you that uh the classup people came up here and traded and if you this is an assignment for the teachers now you read the Molton Lois and Clark Journal set in book six and book seven and in book Seven it explains the role of the classup and the scutes and I&#8217;ll use the more modern map though the clups live down here the clups were intermediaries between the people on the the Upper Valley and the Lower Valley and so when Lewis and Clark said the Chinooks have been at war with the scales and the scal the Chinooks are not allowed above the war kayaks the clups were free to come up here the shinook weren&#8217;t the clups came up traded took the goods back down to the shinuk and the shinuk would give them goods and the clups would take them back and so that&#8217;s the role of the clups any other questions more questions okay let&#8217;s go back here what is your question are science are scientists still working on the project to find um where Lu and Clark are or where they also went are scientists still working on the project to find where L and Clark um also went uh I think we know where they went but I uh I know that uh one of the people in the Park Service Doug Wilson is out at Fort classup today and they&#8217;re working to find out all of the information they can at the the site of the fort classic to find out how long they were there and and what they ate while they were there and other things like that any more questions we got one back here all right good have you been able to preserve your native language and do you personally speak anything other than English uh I don&#8217;t speak anything other than English um I was probably the worst student on the planet so I always tell people English is my only foreign language but uh not me but other people in our tribe are preserving our Salish language the Kat had two languages the Salish we shared with the shahis the two languages are almost identical and the sahaptin we shared with the yakas in fact all of the yakam or the sahaptin speakers when they came here they were called click itats and click attat is really means sahap speaker we have a question over here I will come over here to you and you can tell your question how do you know that they used it all the stuff that you have here how do they know that they use what all the stuff that&#8217;s here all the Stu it&#8217;s here you mean like here on the table out there you mean like uh salmon and and Cedar that type of thing I I can tell you that Lois and Clark took really good notes and when you read those journals uh teachers it&#8217;s book six and book seven and then maybe one of the neatest one is the one that nobody knows about and that&#8217;s the White House journals does any of the teachers know about the White House journals raise your hand okay Joseph White House was a private with Lewis and Clark and Joseph sometimes he had Duty and he was gathering firewood and peeling potatoes and doing Army things but other days Joseph had some free time and when Joseph wrote Joseph was one of the only Journal keeper to write active entries so Joseph&#8217;s entries were written as they occurred everybody else wrote their entries they took notes and then they recreated them years later so sometimes on the days Joseph was free he gives us the best picture of everything and that&#8217;s book 11 and for you guys to study the journals the easiest and best way is to pick the date so like we would just say November 28th 1805 and go back and look and find out what happened any other questions question over let&#8217;s go it over here did any of the uh Eastern Oregon Indian tribes like the ellos and the caus did they were they involved in any of the trading down here oh absolutely uh the word Shoni in jargon means person from the interior so we know that people from Idaho came here we know that uh people from California came here and traded and we know that the uh well at least I&#8217;ve been studying it I believe there&#8217;s a people called wakan Nish Waki and I believe wanas SE and those are people called nutkin from the northern tip of Vancouver Island and those people were here all right we have uh time for maybe one more question let&#8217;s go over here how do you how do you know uh where Lis and Clark is bed how do you know where Lu and Clark are buried well um I think it&#8217;s written in in a history book uh Lewis is buried and I don&#8217;t know where somewhere down South Tennessee Tennessee yeah just Trail they see and then Clark lived a long happy life and died a very old man so they and and he he he wrote down a lot of stories and I think he I don&#8217;t know where he&#8217;s buried but St Louis St Louis Missouri right I I think it&#8217;s time for us to go but we got one more question if somebody&#8217;s ready let&#8217;s have one more question from this young man right over here go ahead do you do you think or know if leis and Clark pass through this spot where this T of voes is that do you think or no if leis and Clark passed where this spot is right here I think it&#8217;s really quite likely that yes they did pass by here uh the only thing is is on the way down I think they stopped on the airport side I don&#8217;t think they stopped on this side of the river so but on the way back they spent a couple days here because uh they sent a scouting party up the wamit river so uh they&#8217;ve certainly looked at this place if they didn&#8217;t stand here all right let&#8217;s give a nice big round of applause for Mike iel</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gentlemen welcome to the tent of many voices this tent is part of a traveling exhibit that has been following the lwis and Clark Trail in about the same time frame as Lewis and Clark did 200 years ago while you&#8217;re here please take time to see the rest of our exhibit we have our kid-size K booat we have a PLS Indian Tepee and you can see the tools that the Native Americans of the planes were using when Lewis and Clark came through we also have our exhibit tent next next door where you can go through with a written text or listen to a 35-minute audio tour this tent of many voices is the tent that we showcase all of the stories of the Lewis and Clark expedition now that being said this is a huge story it is a story of Lewis and Clark to be sure it is also a story of the young woman who went with them and carried her small child and it&#8217;s also a story of the people that they met along the way they met many people from diverse backgrounds with different Lifestyles and different cultures and at this time it gives me great pleasure to introduce Rob CER who works here at Travelers Rest as the Native American program coordinator and at this time I&#8217;ll turn it over to him thank you very much and welcome everyone this this beautiful afternoon I tell people that I&#8217;m one of the luckiest people in the world because I&#8217;ve got probably one of the best jobs that there is to coordinate programs with wonderful wonderful minds and to tell the the native story through the mouths and through the hearts of the native people it&#8217;s it&#8217;s just wonderful to to work with Elders on a daily basis and and have them tell their stories and tell their their life story of of what it was like to grow up here in the bitet what it was like to grow up on the Lo Trail what it was like to grow up here in the Northwest so I&#8217;m very very fortunate to have that that wonderful position that I get to work with these these wonderful people today I have a a a very special guest Mr Alan Pinkham he&#8217;s from the npers tribe and he&#8217;s going to give a little bit of the NES Pur perspective on Lewis and Clark please make him feel very welcome and thank you very much thank you thank you appreciate the introduction uh I am a NES purse uh we also call ourselves npu which means the people or the real people or human beings but you know we gave this the name that we&#8217;re given that we are known so widely by happened to it&#8217;s it&#8217;s a French term nay per se but it&#8217;s been corrupted to nesp Pur and it&#8217;s not pronounced we don&#8217;t say NES Pierce we say nesper because that&#8217;s the way we learned it and uh that&#8217;s our way of saying that n per se so and of course the English influence on this was why we come up with this termin ology but our real name is npu ninu but we also called ourselves Children of the coyote and also are known by the name snip snip those people that come out of the mountains so those are the terms that were known by way before Lucen Clark came here and some of the things that I would like like to discuss or let you know about is is the great deal of misunderstanding that occurred when Lewis and Clark came through here you know they had a certain way of looking at us and viewing and interpreting what we were saying and a lot of times those things were vastly misunderstood because they didn&#8217;t know what we were talking about they attempted to you know we asked the question when we first seen Louis and Clark is the Earth the mother the son the father and then they got to talking about well we know about that we we uh know about The Godly things and and so they were telling us their impression of what creation was and we weren&#8217;t a we were asking about do they understand the mother is the earth and the son the father because that&#8217;s our spirituality but they didn&#8217;t seem to understand that so L later later on we were inundated by missionaries and I&#8217;ll get to this later but uh one of the things I want to point out here is this formation here I don&#8217;t know whether my light works here yeah here here you know that you you recognize that that&#8217;s the Big Dipper to us that&#8217;s that&#8217;s what we call this and there&#8217;s a story that goes with this old coyote he was sitting down and looking up and he was looking at these formations and coyote comes along along and says what are you looking at he says oh I&#8217;m looking at two of them don&#8217;t you see them this one and this one don&#8217;t you see them and coyote says yes I see them what are they they are grizzly bears says old wolf so he kept saying uh old wolf kept saying well I sure wish I could go up there and see these two grizzly bears in the meantime old Wolf&#8217;s four other Brothers came along and asked the same question what are you looking at say oh we&#8217;re looking at the two grizzly bears up there don&#8217;t you see them right here and then old wol he kept persisting I want to go up there and see these two grizzly bears so coyote says I&#8217;ll show you how to go up there so coyote he makes five bundles of arrows in a bow and he shoots the first arrow and it stays up there and he shoots a second one it sticks to the first one and a third to the second and so forth until it comes all the way down to ground and then coyote says now you can go up there and see these two grizzly bears but the next oldest wolf brother says well I want to go up first with my next two youngest Brothers old wolfes agrees okay you go up there and look at the two grizzly bears so they go up the arway and they go up and they sit down here here and here that&#8217;s the three next oldest brothers and then old old wolf says well I want to go up next but I&#8217;ll take my little dog with me and my youngest brother so here&#8217;s old wolf and there&#8217;s his little dog and his and his youngest brother so this is why we call this h the two grizzly bears okay now what does this constellation rotate around the North Star okay so now because it lines up with the North Star you know where North is and as you hear this story as a child and you grow up and you look at formation then you know where North is and South is opposite of that and of course East and West is easy to figure out because the sun rises in the East sets in the west so now as a child you know how to recognize these directions and so coming through cway and Locka and over here by the muda corridor what do you need for directions the North Star right well there it is right there so now of course other people call it the big but we don&#8217;t we call it so there&#8217;s a difference here but yet it tells the same thing it tells the four directions and so as a young person you learn these stories and you know how to travel there&#8217;s traveling stories among the nesters we didn&#8217;t just stay in a locks saww and the cellway and the salmon and the Snake River drainages or the Columbia Plateau we came all across these mountains and we went as far east as the five Great Lakes routinely way before leou and Clark shows up we were probably traveling a greater amount of uh trips because we acquired the horse about 1700 some people say we we acquired horse about 1730 but it um it&#8217;s much earlier I believe because the trade route between tribes was very fast now that could be substantiated by the epidemics that we had suffered we had suffered at least two epidemics prior to Lewis and Clark and there&#8217;s stories of villages disappearing along the Snake River because of these epidemics so it had already suffered some losses and to substantiate that we call the Eastern tribes those east of the Mississippi with sores people because they suffered small poox before we did so people had suffered small pox at least twice before 180 five then that means we would have traveled or traded that kind of distance 22500 miles away and a very practical way to look at this is if you even if you walk or ride a horse or even by a canoe you can average about 20 mil per day so in 100 days you&#8217;re 2,000 miles away so traveling wasn&#8217;t that big a deal with us now you hear these stories of tribal conflicts between tribes well yes there is we had difficulty with the Shashi people and ab banic people with the uh cheyen and the black feet and we usually had difficulties with these people when we came out this direction but not all the time one of the things that has occurred is that we needed to negotiate our way through other tribal territories and how do you do that well you form alliances you form alliances with these other people whoever they are sometimes it lasts quite a while sometimes it doesn&#8217;t one of these is one of the things that&#8217;s at the Louis and Clark time is that we were very closely affiliated with the Salish people here in this Valley and the the affiliation was that one of our leaders called hak IL pil and that&#8217;s interpreted as red bear red bear one of his wives was a Salish wife and the other wife was an NP wife and so out of this Union then we became uh this became an alliance mechanism between the Salish people and the npers and the descendants of that Union then became the mechanism for this Alliance so that&#8217;s why we were able to do these things and set up these alliances by the descendants of these unions and even uh so so we set up these lines now we didn&#8217;t now with the black feet we had a lot of difficulty also but then within the black feet we set up an alliance with the little black feet so we could get through their territory now probably depended on the people that set up these alliances that were able to do this a different group of nesp may not be able to do the same thing but we did that and one of the illustrations of this is that LE and Clark when they came to weip and uh along the clear water and a little further down we already had six muzzle ERS but we didn&#8217;t have powder and ball for those weapons well where did we acquire these weapons Russians were coming down from the north from Alaska in that area the Spanish were coming north of California coast but the Canadians were in Canada and then the other fur Traders were around the Great Lakes so we could acquire these weapons in all four directions but more than likely where we acquired these weapons were at the Great Lakes area because this is one of the trading centers for both the Canadians and also American we uh one of the first people that came out to our country we call them Bostons because that&#8217;s where they came from and referred to him as Boston so those are the kinds of things that occurred and so there was a big Network already in existence when Louis and Clark came here we were coming out on the plane we&#8217;re going as far as the great lakes and even further there was another story that probably occurred about 1820 maybe a little bit earlier 1810 maybe and we we had horses at this time there was a first man he says I want to go see where the uh the sun comes up so he gathers the people he tells the people I want to go see where the sun comes up he loads these uh horses with whatever he thinks he needs and away he goes he comes across the trail here through Lo goes out on the plains goes down to Missouri sees all kinds of strange Indian people along the way he meets them all he goes through their territory stays in the dtas for uh year or two and he learns about these new kinds of people and so he says well I want to go see where these people are so he goes to a place called Cincinnati now Cincinnati was established about 1795 so Cincinnati had already been established when he went there and he spent three or four years in Cincinnati just to find out what&#8217;s going on then he decides I&#8217;m going to go down the Great River so he goes south along the Mississippi he doesn&#8217;t find too much along the Mississippi because those tribes had been inundated by smallpox about this time he doesn&#8217;t find too much then he says well I think I&#8217;ll go west so he goes west to a country that&#8217;s hot all year long this is the way he described it so was had to be in uh Southern Arizona maybe southern California maybe well into Mexico he stays there several years then he decides I&#8217;m going to go north so he comes North he sees the mountains on a Columbia Plateau the Columbia River the Snake River he comes up those Rivers goes to the Clearwater River and he&#8217;s home that Journey took him 20 years so we&#8217;re traveling people other tribes traveled as well so it&#8217;s not just nesp other tribal people did this also West Coast Indians went to the east coast East Coast Indians came to the West Coast way before Lu and Clark show up so there&#8217;s already this network of trade and an exploration and getting acquainted setting up alliances with other tribes and we&#8217;re finding out what&#8217;s going on what&#8217;s occurring Eastern tribes are suffing suffering from the small Pop there&#8217;s new kinds of people to the east now prior to Louis and Clark prior 1805 300 years prior to that how could we not know about another kind of human being on this continent we had to find out way before 1805 because we had been there we went there we learned about these people the earth when you have predictions or prophecies coming out of these contacts one of the prophecies is one day there will be a white-faced creature behind a white-faced animal about the size of a deer that will come through laway Valley and that occurred when these new kinds of strange people come they&#8217;re going to draw lines across the Earth and they&#8217;re going to say this is yours this is mine your name will go into a book but you will not know when your name goes into this book what does that mean an allotment book a census book a Bible these are our predictions we do not know when our name goes into a book and so these are the kinds of predictions that we were making way before Len Clark came and the only way we could have come up with these kinds of predictions or prophecies is that we had to have gone somewhere to learn a little bit about what is really going on on this island we call this whole continent an island because we knew that this W Island there was water to the West water to the east there&#8217;s a great lake to the north and there&#8217;s water to the South it&#8217;s an island this whole continent is an island how did we know that more than likely we went there we went so far south that we seen an animal we never seen before we seen this animal and we called it pitet pitet in ners means imitator and imitator is the monkey so that&#8217;s how far south we went so these are the kinds of things that I think we need to put things in perspective of 200 years ago and that perspective is that we knew more about Lewis and Clark than they knew about us because we said they&#8217;re coming weo weapo means the white man is coming so these are always things we already knew and we also knew that the early description of these strange people were they&#8217;re going to speak a language we never heard before they&#8217;re going to bring good things and bad things to us some of them will have their faces on upside down and they&#8217;ll have eyes like fish eyes like fish is a gray blue or green eyes the face upside down is beards and mustaches and bald on top and you know who you are so so these are the things that we already knew so and uh there&#8217;s so many things here there you know I&#8217;ve been doing some research among my own people I&#8217;ve talked to some of our elders and and some of my peers I&#8217;m not an elder I&#8217;m just a guy that has gray hair just like some of you so and and I&#8217;ve talked with that and also I heard some stories from my father my father died in 1975 his name was Alex bham and he was born in 1895 and when he was a young boy he would listen to Three Old Men the names of these three old men were p p and these are the names of these three old men they were up in their 60s and 70s and he would listen to them this would be about the year 1903 1904 he was about seven or eight years old and he got so engrossed listening to these old men tale of about a 100 years prior to 1903 that he would listen and this much of what I&#8217;m telling you comes from my father through these three old men otherwise if if my father had not told me I would probably not have known a great deal of this so these is what my father would tell me you know the the predictions you know of of the lines across the Earth and uh also there&#8217;s another one our uh world will be turned over the Earth will be turned over what that means is the white man will bring the plow and he&#8217;ll turn the Earth over so he&#8217;s turning our Earth over as well as our culture and our society and our way of lives that&#8217;s what this really means is our lives are being turned over at the same time that the white man is plowing the ground that&#8217;s what that really means so that&#8217;s a kind of prediction that uh he would hear from these three old men and they would also talk about other things they would talk about not only present one of the present things that these three old men would talk about they would say the prophecies are coming true and what they would talk about they would tell when these people come they will make things that go through the air they will make things that crawl upon a ground that&#8217;s the automobile in the airplane so they already knew some of these things this is what they were saying because of the Ingenuity and the technology that these people were bring they will also do these other things making the airplane and an automobile so it these these I guess in 1903 there the automobiles were already made and some of the airplanes were starting to be developed but then that these three old men were saying it&#8217;s coming true of what they are doing and the three old men would talk about these people have something that we don&#8217;t have and that&#8217;s the ability to make things from metal and glass and one of the early things that we try do is that when we learned about this metal and glass you know remember that the six muzzle oders that we possessed in 1905 but no leaden ball that&#8217;s the technology of the day so how do we acquire these things how do we get a hold of this metal and glass how do we trade for these now Lis and Clark my understanding is that they had the latest technology Firearms the rifled muzzle loader the the glass the beads and metal axes so we knew about these things as well and so he said well how do we things we could kill them we all we have to do is kill 33 people well the argument was well look what they have look what they can bring to us if we kill them maybe we will not be able to get those things but if we treat them well maybe we can get these things more readily so there&#8217;s a big debate what should we do when these people come among us we know what they&#8217;re bringing they&#8217;re bringing good things and bad things but the good things will be more beneficial to us than the bad things there was a great argument what should we do wat kuiz an elderly woman of the time of 1805 says don&#8217;t do them any harm because these people helped me when I was a captive on the Great Plains around the Great Lakes area I met these kinds of people these strange people they treated me kindly so don&#8217;t do them any harm and it&#8217;s true what kis was tra uh captured and taken away by her captures to the Great Lakes area she finally uh secured her U Freedom by sneaking away or you know somehow she had gotten away from her captor she had been traded also to other tribes probably around the Great Lakes area and she escaped and she came upon some white people that treated her kindly took her in took care of her she had a young child with her at this time and there was one white man among these people that said I will take you across the Eastern bitter water come with me and she said no I want to go back to my people so she comes West along the way her baby dies she buries it along the way but she finally gets home to the Clearwater Country and so when Louis and Clark came and this great argument was going on she convinced everyone you know don&#8217;t do them any any harm because look at the things that they that we could acquire so so the the the mood shifted we said how do we bring about a good relationship with these people we know what they&#8217;re bringing but they have good things also so how do we do this well you treat them well feed them provide guides for them you know where they want to go we&#8217;ll provide guides and we&#8217;ll help them build Cano which we did and we also took care of their horses so we did all these things for them so they went on down the river actually they they went down in five canoes but actually there were six canoes made one canoe came back up River and it was because the first canoe that they made wasn&#8217;t very well made and so some of the guys came back with that six or the first canoe but the other five canoes were a little bit better made even though L and Clark wrecked quite a bit going down to clear water in this Snake River in Rapids now I&#8217;ve often wondered how could they get a wreck you know a boat wreck along the clearw waterer because if you ever seen that River today it&#8217;s almost smooth well 200 years ago it wasn&#8217;t that way there is rocks and uh Rapids and edes and and a lot of that was changed because the engineers when the steamboats came into the area blasted out a lot of these rocks and the railroad took out a lot of rocks too so that happened on the clear water as well as the salon or the Snake River the middle Snake River not on the Salmon River but it did occur on a snake and a clear water because Steamboat traffic was starting to come up the river in about 18 oh 1865 or 1870 I believe forget which year but but one of the things that I um a little uh concerned about is that some of these canoes over here they don&#8217;t look like nesters canoes of course they weren&#8217;t made by nesp either but one of the things that you&#8217;ll notice they&#8217;re almost blunt on one end you know they&#8217;re of course the chainsaw did a lot of the work but we didn&#8217;t make them that way the front end and the half didn&#8217;t look that way there was more of a very smooth and long curve on both ends now the reason for that was because when you went down Rapids the upper portion of the the front end of that canoe would hit the rapid first and you&#8217;d be lifted up over the rapid and these is I I think they would go into the rapid more readily and I think that&#8217;s why Lo and Clark had so many wrecks and and by the way we found out that about half of the core Discovery didn&#8217;t know how to swim so we we went out and rescued quite a few of them when they got into bokit so so besides you know this misunderstanding you know there&#8217;s a lot of these things that went on and in 18 particularly in um losen car when they came through our country they they started buying our dogs and uh they ate our dogs that we traded or sold to them well there one one a return trip in 1806 they just below Spalding Idaho it&#8217;s it&#8217;s this side of Leon Idaho about oh eight or nine miles in our language we call this place suta sua and it&#8217;s my mother&#8217;s place along the clearw river and that&#8217;s where Le and Clark and particularly Lewis one young Nest purse threw a puppy in his plate or nearly in his plate and Louis got up and threw the puppy back and hit the young man in the chest and picked up a Tommy Hawk and threatened to uh Tommy Hawk this young nesper well of course the young man he backed off and says well you can&#8217;t make jokes with these people but his his his he was taking up the cause of a young girl that played with a dog that was Lewis was eating so she was upset then the mother got upset so this young man took up their cause threw the puppy in Lewis&#8217;s plate to make a little joke with him and fun with him because we never ate dog we never ate dog at all even in very hard times we never ate dogs we occasionally would eat horses but we never ate dogs other tribal people did eat dogs but we never I guess one of the things that we viewed the dog as is why eat your best buddy you know he shows us where the game is at you know he takes care of Camp you know he&#8217;s the Watchdog he helps hunt you know so why do this to your little little friend so that&#8217;s why we didn&#8217;t eat dog but Louis and Clark and the other members very readily did and they purchased all most of the dogs in the neighborhood when they came through so so there&#8217;s there&#8217;s this this kind of thing that was going on but then when you read the journals it just describes this impertinent Nest person threw a puppy in my plate and I threatened to killing so this is the anglo-american view of native peoples of the time and probably other members of the core also did maybe Julia or juler may have had a different view because juler was on my understanding he was half shaune Indian and and half French so he knew the sign language and we knew the sign language and and so there was a better communication between drer and other nesters than most others in the core Discovery so how and this is the good relationship that that I&#8217;m talking about is that it did occur and juler was one of these that that perpetuated this good relationship because juler we gave him one of the best horses that we had available of course we gave Lewis a good horse too and and Clark uh but we also recognize that drer was of the with sores people of the Eastern tribes and he knew the sign language so we could probably communicate with him a little bit more a little bit better and then the U when they came back up they were at the mouth of poo River or rather the Potlatch River just above uh laway Creek and east of Le about 10 mil miles or so there they this is where the cut noose was at one of our leaders NNU now one of the three men that my father listened to was also named nushu kutn cutos is my father&#8217;s Uncle so this is how I&#8217;m tied into this Lo and Clark thing so at the uh cut noes Village which is at the mouth of potlatch River they they had uh there was a shishoni boy there that spoke shashona he could speak with sakaia so there was communication between in Shoni then it probably went to Hada because shano could speak Hada then sharbono was French so it probably went to French then it went to English so he went through about four or five different languages you know is also in it so there&#8217;s probably five different languages that if you wanted to try to communicate something to someone you know whatever Louis and Clark you know were uh proposing you know relationships or or agreements that it had to go through five uh languages so it&#8217;s very complicated this is where I think a lot of misunderstanding occur you know there&#8217;s there&#8217;s so many names that L and Clark wrote down in the journals that I can&#8217;t even recognize them because the way you pronounce it the way they heard it is completely different from what we would say it one of those is Tito hary this is the way it&#8217;s actually written in a journal Tito hary that&#8217;s toen ASA toen that&#8217;s what that is we finally figured it out that&#8217;s what it is tanasa and what that means is uh looks like brothers so like you see somebody coming in a distance you can just see little specs and you don&#8217;t recognize them and they get closer and closer and then you see who they are is oh they look like brothers that&#8217;s the name of one of of this man that they were trying to describe so these are the kinds of things that there were so many things that were Mis misunderstood or misinterpret and also that um one of the things that leis and Clark talked about is peace and friendship among all people well we knew that because we knew that we were at Fort Mandan the year before in 1804 there are three Nest Pur there and so those three men came back and said well this is what they&#8217;re talking about peace and friendship well there&#8217;s another big long story I can&#8217;t get into that cuz only got about another 3 or 4 minutes but this is one of what they Lewis and Clark is bringing they&#8217;re bringing this concept of peace and friendship and they&#8217;re bringing kitso medal that says this kitso that&#8217;s what we call coins and on it it says peace and friendship so this is the message that they&#8217;re carrying so when Lo and Clark talked about these medals and gave them out cut noose received one red bear received one twisted hair received one tumu received one there was about seven or eight medals given to nesper leaders of that time and so he said if you want peace and friendship then you treat us the same way this is the first treaty we made with United States government and we took it to heart because we thought so much of what they were saying that this is what we wanted to set up with them as peaceful and friendship and trade and getting and acquiring the technology of the day this is why we did it and we Carri that out all the way until 1877 until we went to war with the United States government in 1877 um I guess before I go any further is there any questions we got a few minutes here questions go ahead and raise your hand if there are questions go ahead and raise your hand I have a microphone so we can share the questions could have been that thorough uh one thing leis and Clark actually actually William Clark left a son among the npers we gave that young person the name hak he is the son of William Clark and he went through all the trials and tribulations up until the war of 1877 he actually went on war trail with Joseph and the other leaders he survived all the battles he was about 70 years old at the time 71 and 77 he went through all the battles from whitebird to Clearwater River to uh Fort fizzle to big hole to Canyon Creek and then to bearspaw he was captured in at Bears paaw went an exile into Oklahoma and there the son of Clark died we call him halak halak in NP means daytime smoker so this is part of this relationship that we&#8217;re trying to set up and maintain with United States halak it was the alliance building mechanism but it didn&#8217;t work in 1877 because we are fighting United States government so there&#8217;s other descendants from the core Discovery York is also another he has a descendants among the tribal people so there&#8217;s all kinds of stories but I guess I&#8217;m out of time so thank you very much and thank you Mr alen Pinkham for 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		<title>Peyton C. Bud Clark on William Clark&#8217;s post-expedition legacy</title>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welome hey Walky bucks Victory song dancers go and dancing place heyyyy he right this time we&#8217;re going to post those colors up caring American flag is PFC William Clark US Army National Guard from oen Missouri Round of Applause ladies and genten next up head man dancer all the way from Tomo Wisconsin Mr Bobby bird Ho Chunk Nation our head lady all the way from maren Illinois representing Kwa Panka and Southern Cheyenne Tanya black Al Moore Round of Applause man keeping everything straight out there and helping me out from uh lame deer Montana Northern Cheyenne Mr Ruben littlehead big round of applause next up is our host Southern drum all the way from Kansas City or Kansas City Missouri Mr Max Neer Red Hawk singers keep things rolling along is our Northern drum all the way from Milwaukee Wisconsin the Young Milwaukee Bucks and our visiting drum all the way from Kansas is Wazi Chachi big round of applause to these guys ladies and gentlemen and I am your announcer I&#8217;m going to be keeping things running as smoothly as possible of Northern or poo from St Lis Missouri my name is Mr John White analou all right we&#8217;re going to go directly into in tribal dancers this time inter tribal going over to wzi Chachi take it away boys where way h oh guys so to go I God w all the great counil here at porage the Sue and touch briefly on some of the issues subsequent to that anyway get started here in just a second okay well William Clark was born in 1770 in uh Virginia in Caroline County right next to Thomas Jefferson his mentor&#8217;s home county of Al uh albamar County he was the ninth of 10 children there were uh uh no infant mortality in the Clark family which is when you think about it nothing short of miraculous at that point in time so he must to come from prettyy good stock he was uh no stranger to military life he grew up in a military family all five of his older brothers served as officers in the revolution his brother Jonathan was served as a colonel in the Virginia line was decorated by President Washington brother George the Hannibal of the West George Rogers Clark conquered for the us all of the territory west of the Appalachia captured casc Cahokia and marched on vinin uh the heroic march on vinin where caught um the hair buyer nestled snug in his winter quarters never dreamed that anyone would attempt such a feat but old George waited the swamps of Indiana and uh sent General Hamilton off to Virginia and chains in 1784 urged by brother George the Clark family migrated to the Falls of the Ohio and it was there the little William found a perfect setting for what was to lie in store for him growing up on the frontier he could sharpen his skills as a Frontiersman Woodsman a hunter and he became an excellent Marksman but there were a lot of other things to learn out on the frontier aided by their British allies the Native Americans were fiercely opposed to giving up their homelands and their home hunting grounds and by the summer of 1788 troubles between them the migrating settlers the Western movement into the Ohio Valley and the Native Americans erupted in fullscale war the Ohio Valley became known as the Dark and Bloody Grounds Clark joined the the uh militia the Kentucky militia and was serving in the IA at the time of St Clair&#8217;s terrible defeat the worst defeat in the history of American Military campaigns with the Native Americans with over 900 casualties over 600 men killed and fortunately we&#8217;re not it&#8217;s unclear why he was not with Sinclair&#8217;s forces but fortunately he was not or perhaps I wouldn&#8217;t be sitting here today telling you about this anyway uh young William became acutely aware Ware of the conflict The Clash of cultures between Western Civilization moving West and the Native Americans wanting to protect their homelands William served at the Battle of Fallen Timbers he led a rifle company there and shortly thereafter after the Treaty of Greenville a young enen joined his Elite rifle company his name was Maryweather Lewis and of course as we all know a a historic friendship was born and it would uh some years later of course lead to the Lewis and Clark expedition I&#8217;m going to in the interest of cutting this a little short I have a a knack of going off on a tangent things I like to talk about and I could be here all day if I do during the course of the Lewis and Clark expedition uh at the mouth of the bad River in the summer of&#8217; 04 there was a conflict between the tan Sue and the core of Discovery uh we come to know it as the great misunderstanding and during this confrontation captain Clark on one occasion was confronted by Tans Su principal Chief black Buffalo and one of his main Chiefs the partisan after having Council during the day they were preparing to leave Shore and go back to the keelboat on one of the perau and the partisans men did not want to let loose of the bowon and heated words were exchanged and Captain Clark drew his sword and all the men stood ready and it could have gotten real ugly uh if one person made the wrong move it could have erupted into a wh scale battle but fortunately black Buffalo eased the tension took the bowel rope from the soldiers as they were known and handed it back to the Bowman things quieted down the next few days things seemed to go well the Tetons appeared to be friendly and they were hospitable but at the morning kbo prepared to leave things turned a little sour again and once again it was the partisans men who said in so many words that they weren&#8217;t going to allow the explorers to proceed up the river that they would have to pay more tribute the captains stood fast they were not going to be intimidated they held their ground and Captain Clark went forward and he took the port fire that&#8217;s the slow burning fuse they used to touch the cannon off he took the port fire from the Canon ear and he stepped alongside inside the cannon and in his journals he says I spoke so as to touch his pride and once again was a situation where the KBT being up against the bank of overhanging Bank of the Missouri the Tetons with B strong weapons drawn having decided advantage over the core of Discovery one wrong move on either side that set things off and the core of Discovery in all probability would have discovered eternity but fortunately once again it was black Buffalo that decided that it wasn&#8217;t worth Bloodshed and he defused the situation and allowed the explorers to continue on in the post Expedition years you know we tend to think we think of the Lewis and Clark expedition in terms of William Clark uh it&#8217;s like it&#8217;s almost like one word Lewis and Clark but actually in I think in the final analysis when we think of William Clark&#8217;s career in the service of his country which spanned another 30 years after the Expedition till his death in 1838 I think as more and more information becomes available just recently there&#8217;s two books that hit the streets in the last two weeks Lanny Jones&#8217;s book and uh Bill Foley both bios on William Clark both with a little different perspective but a lot of uh new insight if you will on his post Expedition career and I think as as we learn more and more about William Clark the Lewis and Clark expedition as as magic and as heroic as it was and as wonderful a story as it is in terms of how it impacted American history and western expansion and in particular how it impacted our dealings with the Native Americans it will stand in the shadow of Clark&#8217;s post expeditionary career for 30 years he served as the chief Federal Officer on the frontier in 1813 he was appointed Governor uh well he started out in charge of of Indian Affairs and Brigadier General of the militia in 18 13 he was he was appointed governor and served as all three officers in the war of 182 erupted William Clark was much involved in uh the defense of St Louis and the west and the settlers on the Western frontier he knew through his Trade Network his network of of fur Traders uh being himself involved with the formation of the Missouri Fur Company and much involved with the the highways of the time if you will the fur trade links the waterways up the Missouri the Mississippi and the tributaries he had a pretty good handle on what was going on and he knew that the British influence was uh in his mind what was encouraging the Indians to raid the settlers and propose it it presented a risk to St Louis they reached a point where the people in St Louis feared for their lives there was uh a gentleman on the upper Missouri excuse me on the Upper Mississippi Clark&#8217;s Alter Ego if you will redhaired no less by the name of Robert Dixon who Clark saw as the single bigest cause of the problem in terms of the British influence on the Native Americans and he had a stronghold on uh the socks and the fox and other Native American tribes he was located in the area 500 miles up the up the Mississippi of at pory Shu or Prairie Des Shan excuse me and Clark thought that all things considered that the best tactic would be to raise a militia build some gunboats and send uh armed boats and Men up to Mississippi to try to defuse Mr Dixon and take control of Cy Shu and he did coincidentally when he got there uh Dixon was off somewhere else and there was a skeleton Force there and it there really was no battle at all and they built a fort and assumed that they were taking control well they they made some wrong assumptions because shortly after they got back to St Louis a force of 650 British and their Indian allies arrived back at poru and promptly took it back so Clark once again uh found himself in a difficult position in 18 um was it 1814 when the Treaty of gent was finally signed and pred pred President Madison took over President Madison issues issues orders to his chief officer out on the frontier to meet with the Indians treat with them in the interest of peace and the treaty was the Clark&#8217;s orders were were to negotiate with the tribes to bring the tribes together and negotiate for peace this was not about uh Indian Removal or uh negotiations for land but rather just to quiet things down on the frontier okay and it&#8217;s interesting I wanted to share something with you it&#8217;s interesting that in the in the Missouri Gazette Clark published a proclamation consistent with the president orders in the Missouri cazette Gazette it was printed having been appointed Commissioners with full power to conclude a treaty of peace with those tribes or nations or Indians residing upon the missu and its Waters and where at which the United States at the time of the of the ratification of the late treaty with Great Britain we have concurred to hold treaty at the Village of Port Portage duu on the 6th of July next of which we have notified the Indians and invited them to attend and deriving precaution from a most unjustifiable attack that was made upon a party of Indians in 1812 on their way to the Council of Cahokia to which they had been invited we do most urgently enjoying it on our fellow citizens of the Missouri and Illinois territories to abstain from from any and every act injures to the Indians now invited or that might be calculated to prevent a successful issue to the negotiations okay in other words he&#8217;s issuing a proclamation telling all the citizens don&#8217;t mess with the Indians leave them alone they&#8217;re coming here at our request we&#8217;re going to try to make p peace okay in the same issue of the Missouri Gazette there is a much much lener article about a recent occurrence with the Missouri Rangers falling under Clark&#8217;s supervision as Brigadier General of the militia where a group of Native Americans attacked the Rangers and it talks about uh the battle that ensued and men being skilled killed and one man arriving back with a tomahawk in his head and he later died and of course people that read this are going to see this as one more case of Indian atrocities so here we have Clark right in the middle of this this conflict issuing a proclamation telling the citizens that we&#8217;re going to negotiate for peace and try to uh make peace agreements with the Native Americans while at the same time they&#8217;re hearing about in more Indian raids and more problems with Indians killing the white Intruders of course these articles always failed to mention that all of these battles occurred on the Indians own home ground okay in this same same time frame the people of s leis were crying for revenge and the Missouri Gazette again published uh an outcry he says let the north as well as the South be Jackson ised and the popular political position if you will was one of Vengeance what we need is not negotiations for peace not treaties what we need is more militia more army more guns and uh get them out way so Clark finds himself in a very complex situation once again I got to get back on on track here as the council at Portage to sue began on the 10th of July a group of Sue ironically including none other than black Buffalo and the partisan Clark&#8217;s old adversaries from the upper Missouri in o four the same among the Sue were some of the Tetons the same group of Indians that Clark had declared in his journals in &#8217;06 the viest misre of the Missouri and that something would have to be done about them or our trade up to Missouri would never be secured well ironically these same Warriors steep forward when they arrived in this area and told the Commissioners that they were not like other Native Americans that took their gifts and their presents in their blankets and hid them away in their tepes and turned their back on the whites they said put something sharp in our hands that we may help ourselves and by so doing help you so it seems that this is another testimonial to the fact that Lewis and Clark failed ethnology one 1 and greatly misjudged the Tian suo the treaty here the council and the treaty signed here at porage to Su became a a pivotal Point not only for William Clark and his career but for Western uh expansion in in general even though the treaties here were signed in the interest of peace and it wasn&#8217;t about uh land removal giving away their Native American lands it&#8217;s it set a precedence it set it&#8217;s it set a procedure if you will for future negotiations and the treaties that would follow would be for the most part dramatically different and William Clark found himself uh the old proverbial uh between a rock and a hard spot he he realized that uh this this tidal wave of Western Migration was coming down the Ohio Valley people were spilling across the Mississippi by the thousands the population of the Missouri of the Missouri territories went from uh in the course from 18 14 to 1820 from 25,000 people and scattered around the entire territory to 65,000 people and William Clark recognized being acutely aware of what have transpired in the Ohio Valley he recognized that there was really only two alternatives for the Native Americans you can sugarcoat it you can try and spin it one way or another you can look at it from a 2004 perspective and talk about what should have could have but if we stand in his shoes back in 1815 and for the rest of his career and think in terms of what he should have done he really only had two Alternatives the Native Americans only had two Alternatives they could either negotiate for removal and relocation or as the government in their documents I have a number of their original documents and they they like to title them immigration of the Indians well immigration of the Indians meant we&#8217;re going to negotiate unfair treaties and kick them off their homelands so what was the alternative the alternative was what transpired in the Ohio Valley for the most part and that would be bloody conflicts and perhaps Annihilation and William Clark was Duty bound to make Indian reloc happened and he did he did a very good job of it and one of the reasons perhaps he was so effective at negotiating treaties and uh facilitating Indian relocation because it really served two purposes okay it Ser it served to satisfy the political pressure of the day the Jacksonian beliefs were coming into uh being politically correct if you will and again to to not sugarcoat it it was get the Indians out of the way we don&#8217;t care what happens to them we don&#8217;t care where they go we just don&#8217;t want them killing our settlers stealing our cattle etc etc but for Clark for Clark carrying his Jeffersonian beliefs keeping in mind that he is a product of Virginia Gentry his mentor Thomas Jefferson is on record with his beliefs that the Native Americans and Jefferson very clear about this that the Native Americans were equal to the to the white people in every way they were just lower in The evolutionary process they had not been afforded the opportunity to escalate to the point where the white people were but yet Jefferson made it very clear that he felt they had all the potential to do so they just needed to be given the opportunity and Jefferson along with William Clark saw that opportunity in the form of the factory system and a simulation that is to set up a chain of trading poster factories as they called as they were called would wean the Indians from the Native from the their dependence on the British and the trader the um British Traders fur Traders coming down from Canada and give them everything they needed make the things they needed and wanted more readily available from the US of a so that they would align themselves with the us and not with the British and at at the same time it would facilitate their ultimate ass simulation into Jefferson&#8217;s agrarian society for men like Jefferson and William Clark they didn&#8217;t think in terms of of will the Indians be assimilated it was the it was the only way they knew how to think it was only a case of when would they be assimilated not if but when so when we when we look at at William Clark&#8217;s career and we look at how effective he was at negotiating Indian Indian Removal we also need to be reminded that he he was an advocate of the factory system which about Midway through his career fell out of favor because it was contradictory to other American ideas like free enterprise and instead of the US factories getting all the opportunities with the Native Americans the free Traders would like to have those opportunities things haven&#8217;t changed was a lot of a lot about money but in any case Clark never changed in terms of those kind of beliefs and he became very frustrated over his situation in in 1825 he wrote a letter to his old friend Thomas Jefferson and rather than paraphrase it I&#8217;d like to I&#8217;d like to share what he wrote and I&#8217;ll read in part in my present situation of superintendent of Indian Affairs it would afford me pleasure to be enabl to the condition of these unfortunate people placed under my charge knowing as I do their wretchedness and their rapid decline it is to be lamented that the deplorable situation of the Indians do not receive more of the human feelings nation and yesterday the stone the historic marker that we unveiled at the 100-year rededication of Clark&#8217;s Memorial on one side of that stone is engraved it is to be lamented that the deplorable situation of the Indians does nation I think for William the the conflict the contradictions that he had to deal with must have been ex extremely frustrating and of course as history records uh unfortunately it would be many many decades in fact things probably got much worse before they got better um in fact they definitely got worse before they got better and we still have a long ways to go and as a memory member of the discovery Expedition few of my brothers are here today uh we we have a charter we have a charter that we often discuss and we make sure that new members recognize how we feel and in no uncertain terms what our message is that we intend to carry up the Missouri and across the country for the bicentennial and that message is that it&#8217;s way past time to hear the rest of the story it&#8217;s time to go forward with open minds and Open Hearts and encourage the Native Americans to tell not only their side of the Lewis and Clark Story which we&#8217;re very excited about and interested in hearing but it goes way way beyond that you know the the the bicentennial celebration can serve as a catalyst to he not only their side of the Lewis and Clark expedition but their side of a very dark chapter in our American history the period from the post Expedition days through most of the 19th century and having said that I don&#8217;t want to cast gloom and doom over what&#8217;s coming but I see that rather as a ray of sunshine the Gloom and is already there we just for the most part generally don&#8217;t like to talk about it especially in our educational system but the ray of sunshine is that the dialogue starts the healing process and if we start to talk about it and if we can talk openly about the bad side of our American history okay that dialogue and that healing process is going to bring us closer together and events just like this and many other events over the course of the next few years you know can help generate a legacy for the bicentennial uh a legacy that says we came closer together as an American family I hope we all can help make that happen I&#8217;d like to I would like to suggest that uh I&#8217;ll be here till the last dog is hung if you have any questions you&#8217;d like to discuss anyone wants to serve up something for discussion be it lwis and Clark or the meaning of life or whatever uh we&#8217;ll try to entertain it thank sir an there are um a number of ancestors here in the St Louis area not too many Clarks with Clark with the name but Clark descendants nonetheless I live in Dearborn Michigan near Detroit my first cousin Charlie lives here Charlie G Clark who is a member of our Corp also shares portraying the role of his ancestor on occasions especially here in St Charles or St Charles area but then the clan is kind of scattered from sea to shining sea at this point anybody got anything they want to kick around or question I would just like to say one thing I didn&#8217;t get to give Bud a proper welcome but we are very um honored to have him here in por tou he is patony Bud Clark the great great great grandson of the William Clark and he uh called he was excited about us having a powwow here and he was very interested in uh being involved in in Portage and as a resident of Portage T I am Debbie La um we are very very honored to have him here and I&#8217;m glad that everybody made it here to uh hear this wonderful talk that he gave today thank you okay so if anybody else has any questions yeah if you have any thoughts share them with us Now&#8217;s the Time to kick them around sure I think uh I don&#8217;t know I think that seems to be kind of typical you know you&#8217;re preoccupied with a lot of other things later in life I maybe it comes with wisdom you start thinking that it&#8217;s important to learn more about things that are important to your ancestry and you know to hey to our American Heritage and how things came together especially in terms of western expansion where did the par come from the United States frer on a Hunting Expedition and a tour of the West took a shine to Jean bapti number three kind of took him under his wing and encouraged him to come back to Europe with and he did so he went and lived in Europe for a number of years he spoke four languages fluently he must have been a very intelligent guy I have a hard time with one and uh uh led a very colorful life he came back to the United States um served as a uh a guide for a time with wagon trains hunting parties Etc uh went West was in California for a time and in a civil position out there and died on his way to the Montana Goldfield so his story is a very colorful story but I&#8217;d like to comment on his uh on his influence on the Lewis and expedition one of the journal Let&#8217;s uh let&#8217;s let&#8217;s use our imagination here for a minute try to it&#8217;s kind of it&#8217;s it&#8217;s kind of a matter of record that the core of Discovery came together as a family I mean they started out as a rat tag bunch of rowdies at Camp du where drinking and fighting was routine and Court Marshal and I mean these weren&#8217;t West Point grads and alter boys these were a bunch of Frontier routings and Soldiers on the frontier you know that wasn&#8217;t a promising career you know the the the guy you wanted your daughter to bring home for dinner was not a private in the Army on the Western frontier okay these these were often times guys that were there cuz they were on the run or undesirables in other ways although Lewis and Clark had a I&#8217;m sorry having an astute uh well being astute judges of character were were able to sorted out and by the time they headed up to Missouri for the most part they had a pretty tight-knit group but by the time they left Fort Mandan it evolved to more than that not just a tight-knit welld disciplined military group but they were coming together as a family group okay and when we read in the journals about the winter they spent at Fort CLA we know that it was wet and miserable almost all the time they saw the sun 6 days and the months that they were there the fleas were so bad that you could hardly sleep at night and there really wasn&#8217;t much going on there in a in a positive way in terms terms of Shoring up morale what they were really looking forward to was getting the heck out of there okay and poor elk was about all they had to eat they had literally walked out of all their clothing their clothing made from Skins would rot because of the weather so it wasn&#8217;t it wasn&#8217;t a fun place to be now let&#8217;s think in terms of on your worst day you just got a speeding ticket on the way back from making a charitable donation and just as you pulled away from the curb to get headed home again you had a flat tire and then you turned on the radio and your stock just dropped another 25% and you walk through the door wishing you owned a dog so you could kick it you know and unbeknownst to me to you your grand kids have come to visit and here comes a little 2-year-old or a one-year-old toddling across the kitchen floor and what happens to your miserable day think of what the presence of that mother and child had to mean to the core of Discovery okay think about that littlest Explorer and the role that he played and you can&#8217;t go to Molton and pick that out of the journals but if you look between the lines it it&#8217;s there and you can imagine how how that little guy shored up the morale of the men and lifted their spirits and certainly morale and the the the spiritual well-being of the core of Discovery is as much important to the ultimate success of the mission as probably any other single Factor that&#8217;s something I feel very strongly about personally much is said about husband what influence did he have on you know sharino gets a bad WAP because uh writers have taken uh editorial Liberties to out of context talk about what a buffoon he was at the helm that he almost sunk the pero on more than one occasion and uh on another occasion he&#8217;s he struck Chicago WEA and out of context they&#8217;ve painted sharbono as you know not such a good guy but I would argue that Syria student of Lewis and Clark recognizes that sharino was there for a reason he was there as an interpreter he was contracted to go with the explorers and serve as an interpreter they also enjoyed his fine cooking okay he wasn&#8217;t there because of his expertise as a waterman he was probably the worst Waterman on the planet okay and not to not to defend him for striking Sago WEA but to put it in context you need to look at that standing in Clark or Lewis moccasins in 1805 and put it in context you know not that it would ever be a good thing to do but it probably didn&#8217;t have the same stigma that it has from a 2004 perspective although Clark did chastise him for it that&#8217;s also in the journal okay you know since we&#8217;re on this track let me share something with you that again was interwoven into my talk but lessly omitted when when Lewis and Clark left when they left Tucson sharbono and uh Sago WEA and the little guy with the Hada or the mandans as Clark said in his journals Clark was really preoccupied with the order of business of the day keep in mind now these guys they are anxious to get home they are hitting sometimes as much as 70 miles a day down Missouri they were not anxious to spend a whole lot of time at the mandad okay however the captains were were very anxious to have some of the head Chiefs to have representatives from the hadat of the mandam the Rika come down the Missouri and go to was Washington to meet President Jefferson and they finally persuaded Shah uh the big white from the mandans to join them so in the mid in the midst of making arrangements for Shah and his family Clark is preoccupied with all the things that are going on and and the his journal entry for that day notes that he had asked sharbono and Chicago weia to take the little guy with him to St Louis and see that he was educated and that they had declined saying that perhaps after he was weaned they would send him down well two days later on down the river William Clark not the soldier not the Explorer not the courageous leader of the core of Discovery but William Clark the man just as much a human being as any one of us you know is tearing his heart out that family we talked about that evolved a big piece of it has just been torn away from him okay and it&#8217;s killing him and he&#8217;s he&#8217;s he&#8217;s wishing he would have been more assertive he&#8217;s wishing he could have persuaded sharino you know to come with him or at least let him take boy so he writes a letter and sends it back up River and when the first uh versions of the journals were published this letter was unknown it was unknown until it was found among what we refer to as the vor&#8217;s collection where most of the Missouri Historical Society Clark artifacts came from in that same stash of Clark stuff they found a letter and I&#8217;ll read it to you again I won&#8217;t paraphrase it I&#8217;ll read it to you literally in part and he sealed it and made sure that no one but sharino got a hold of you have been a long time it&#8217;s addressed to sharino you have been a long time with me and have conducted yourself in such a manner as to gain my friendship your woman who accompanied you that long dangerous and fatiguing route to the Pacific Ocean in back deserved a greater reward for her attention and services on that route than we had in our power to give her at the Mand Dan app as to your little son my boy pom fancy you well know my fondness for him and my anxiety to take and raise him as my own child I once more tell you if you will bring your son baptized to me I will educate him and treat him as my own child and he goes on to outline a number of alternatives for sharino he&#8217;ll set him up in business he&#8217;ll give him horses if he wants to go visit his relatives in Montreal uh if he wants to set get set up in the fur trade business it&#8217;ll set him up with say a parole load of goods uh whatever it takes just come and bring boy and he closes the letter wishing you and your family great success s c k s and with anxious expectations of seeing my little dancing boy Baptist I shall remain your friend William Clark clearly William Clark is deeply deeply in love with that little guy okay there is no question about it it is representative of how he felt about his family and how close family ties were and how much they meant to William Clark even in his in his complex and difficult life this in the post Expedition and a further testimonial to that will be found in Jim holberg&#8217;s book dear brother where you&#8217;re seeing the personal side of William Clark as opposed to any rights within the constraints of either military protocol or political and government guidelines if you will knowing it&#8217;s going to be read by whoever I think it&#8217;s a uh uh Heritage uh that was passed along to his children and through his children it&#8217;s it&#8217;s it&#8217;s a legacy that carried on and again I say that because there are a number of testimonials and family letters we&#8217;re in later years in fact uh a case in point one I was just reading the other day where it&#8217;s rather obscure and little known second-born son William Preston Clark in a period in Clark&#8217;s life that&#8217;s that&#8217;s uh rather obscure not a lot known about the last few years of his life when he made his last trip East to visit friends and family and William Preston Clark writes home to his brother George Rogers Clark my great great-grandfather and he says talks about their father&#8217;s he p is doing much better they call him P always the reference in the family letter sister to P say p&#8217;s Health oh my goodness it&#8217;s Clark hello sweetie I didn&#8217;t know you were coming here you say hi say hi wa wait minute minute minut anyway William Preston writes to brother George and he says PA&#8217;s health is much improved since we left Louisville and he goes on talking about his health and well-being and then discusses their plans to go on and visit New York and Boston and West Point and a few other points uh the closing of the letter is really neat because it shows that that William Clark uh in his last years had still not lost his sense of humor and not lost his his intimate relationship with his family William Preston closes the letter to the ARA pa pa says you should look out for future times and then he illustrates a riddle and he says figure how did he say it he says figure allegory if you can or understand this allegory if you can and he wrote his father&#8217;s message in the form of a riddle with little illustrations I showed it to a few guys in Camp the other night cuz I brought it with me and we still haven&#8217;t figured it out but uh I wish I had it with me you guys could help me but anyway it&#8217;s um what I&#8217;m driving at is there even in William Clark&#8217;s last years there is that there&#8217;s that close family bond how old was it he was 68 in that day and age that that was very old yeah that was an elderly gentleman William Clark buried four of his seven children he had he lived with a lot of personal tragedy his Angel Julia died young his second wife Harriet kenerly Radford Clark died on Christmas morning he buried all of his nine siblings yet he always seemed to have the strength and the perseverance to drive on there&#8217;s there&#8217;s no indication not to my knowledge at least although he was of course deeply saddened that he spent great lengths of time you know wallowing in misery if you will for lack of a better way of saying but rather that although he had you know it&#8217;s a matter of record that he had a very strong family bond uh in the face of tremendous personal sadness he was able to drive on I guess it indicative of his strength character anybody have any other thoughts they&#8217;d like to entertain no Greg you look like you got something on the tip of your tongue oh no no how is that why don&#8217;t you stay stand behind behind we would like to have this like you to have this thank you H Discovery Expedition that&#8217;s it that&#8217;s a winner a thank you a thank you guys I appreciate that bud hang on to that gu I will I&#8217;ll put it away than you guys I see you guys around here helping that&#8217;s cool I really last number is exactly yeah I uh I&#8217;ll be able to do different uh some of the larger maybe the Signature Events I&#8217;ll be able to fly in with the park service and be in ATT 10 to many voices and it just kind of depends on my work schedule at home too but uh uh the group</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good afternoon it&#8217;s a pleasure to be here we came back to our homelands after over 200 years about 200 years ago or longer our K people live up north of here which is casc casasi and then we were moved down to St Charles from James St Charles we were moved to Springfield from Springfield we were moved to work in that area we had the biggest reservation land and now we shrunk it down to a 6&#215;5 square miles and and we are here not to celebrate but to tell our story about what happened with L Park L CLK made their ways through the country you know by orders of the president and H they found out that restrict grounds for settlers to move into so we were moved further west and further west and to this day we are still really fighting hard for water rice we have to truck water 7 days a week 24 hours a day during summertime for our Tri to survive my name is na it&#8217;s a name that means two rivers and we think that it may have come from the St Charles Area from the tribe Liv there and at this time we&#8217;re going to have some songs by our singers we have a little dancer here that somehow missed the show this morning so he&#8217;s going to we&#8217;re going to sing a song for him he&#8217;s going to draft in for you up here for oh you w h yeah woo our singers are going to sing one more song I&#8217;d like to introduce our singers we have here RTO late singers an Wy Mackie cover up good afternoon I wanted to introduce my grandson this afternoon we&#8217;re AB sh all all through our lives these were our little brothers now his name is De his father Simo his mother his name weim chicken PL we&#8217;re very proud of him he&#8217;s he&#8217;s been performing now he started walking and you guys are good really do that that&#8217;s sign no rehearsal got my name is George Clon uh I&#8217;m going to say just a little bit to bless these guys and honor them in my language thank you very much wo thank you very much uh this uh concludes our part of the program is there any questions that anybody would ask of the kaboo we would like to thank you folks for coming in and and sharing your talents with us do we have a question one question back over here okay let me get the microphone to you what was the original Homeland range of the in this area up in Cass County it&#8217;s about 2 days ride from here but nowadays it&#8217;s only 1 hour thank you for your question let&#8217;s give him another round of applause I have before everyone takes off I have one more uh short presentation I&#8217;d like to introduce Tom wonderly he is a part of the Illinois Luen par Vice Centennial commission and he has a special presentation for Amy is Amy still here yes she is okay there you go Amy has been just a horrific help uh as we put together the signature event uh we we really wanted to make a concerted effort to represent the Native American side to the story and uh we couldn&#8217;t have done that without any please come up I have a speech I want to make sure is right besides helping me helping me learn how to pronounce the uh I&#8217;d like to say on behalf of the Illinois commission Dr Dale Chapman who&#8217;s the chairman of that commission I&#8217;d like to present you with this blanket uh in honor to honor you and to express our appreciation for your outstanding help in presenting the Native American story during our signature P Centennial and this is the best part I understand I get to hug her I&#8217;m really not going to take up a whole lot of your time but I just want to say thank you to Tom wonderly um and um to Dale Chapman and to George Bing who working with us so posted for a real long period of time and it it takes a lot of work to bring tribes back to like this for some tribes it&#8217;s just a real it&#8217;s a it&#8217;s a a joyful and yet a very Bittersweet homecoming for many tribes and it&#8217;s not always easy and but we have um we have tribes coming back to places that they have been removed from hundreds of years ago and we&#8217;re celebrating our survival and we&#8217;re surv we&#8217;re celebrating the fact that our culture is still exist and we have so much to share and our culture and our heritage is still intact it&#8217;s still rich and we wouldn&#8217;t be able to present any of our culture to any of you if you didn&#8217;t have people working like this in the National Park Service and providing this venue and people like George and Tom and Dale Chapman working with us and putting forth such a tremendous effort to bring all of the Native American people back into this new CL Vice Centennial commemoration thank you so very thank you very much for the presentation our next program here in the tent of many voices will start at 3:00 come back as well there are other activities the Native American Heritage games next door our exhibit tent our other exhibits at the TP and the small field and the other events all around Festival grounds what</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like 125 yeah it&#8217;s pretty fast give me a chance to change my angle too so if we go slow that should be good okay that sounds good it&#8217;s great it&#8217;s going good yeah that&#8217;s cool yeah it&#8217;s pretty fast come back here when it&#8217;s more don&#8217;t work I there&#8217;s probably to little faster spe in for oh okay all go so up hey excuse me they&#8217;re artists from Kansas City Missouri and they are the on that put together the signs out along the highway so we&#8217;ll visit with them how&#8217;s that sounding sounds good okay how&#8217;s your background noise is that tolerable it&#8217;s tolerable it is you&#8217;re definitely overpowering it okay good all right get rid of your product you want to do it in dark glasses or light okay is the Tacko T should I jump why don&#8217;t you take that off um should we just have them kind of talking with each other and trade the microphone back and forth microphone exactly um we want it like here are you going to ask questions I will at least right there maybe a little bit closer like this yeah that&#8217;s perect really where you have to keep it okay um you got a two shot here or a three right now right now I got a three shot okay um are you rolling I&#8217;m rolling okay that&#8217;s a good thing to do okay we&#8217;re here with Matt the hamers if I pronounced that right Matt the hamers and K and McCoy They&#8217;re artists from Kansas City Missouri and we just found one of their art projects out on County Road B I think it is on our way into pter sou tell me a little bit about the project uh if you can talk to me about the inspiration for this particular one well it was a couple months in the making uh and we went through a variety of ideas and spaces um visiting a couple of different reservations um speaking with people about how do they want their voice to be represented ladies and gentlemen and CLK you can blame it on me we got some dancers we got stuck we got a phone call way about 15es down the road told they going be here 130 we&#8217;re going to have grand entry going to impact 13 dancers people involved give you a little extra time I know a lot of you had a hard time finding this place adult age would call these take off on when I started living here you remember those signs absolutely absolutely what if anything did that have play there&#8217;s I contact unfortunately I mess up again you must make three one of the ideas of having but we didn&#8217;t know what they say and um only about 10 days ago in the voes listen to Alan pink and Bobby con I wrote the text came out with and said IDE made anybody with circle Tri there decision of the power must make Grand ENT we&#8217;re going to put this on hold for another half hour big sh back and for we or thought we work their nature area they have a beautiful new nature area we also about working with the sound Native American languages and it turned out that that is an idea that for us to sit down and tell a story your hisory he would just tell me a story but we learned that for gentem welcome toell so with their history it is questions they don&#8217;t just tell a story they need to have lead time to with the elders that this would be an appropriate story this one would not and we really didn&#8217;t have enough we went back to the idea F shave style signs and when we heard I heard Alan speaking I began to understand a lot said there was a a lot of background a lot of deep background going to visit with tribes with the sh with the the Poria gentl you know we&#8217;ve both had a lot of back off a little biters hold on second call about so it couldn&#8217;t have come minut deep well research and I might not have understood that what Allan and Bobby were saying you know I couldn&#8217;t have edited it said these are key issues these are crucial if I hadn&#8217;t had a lot of time to learn from a lot of people that as well have any of uh the people that inspired these seen seen the exhibit yet seen the inst um well John White analou who&#8217;s officiating here at the pow and was on the crossing border Symposium panel said during the panel that he loved them that he thought they were provocative and very important so that couldn&#8217;t have made me more great um what else would you like to visit about General thoughts maybe about why you know what we think of it yeah let&#8217;s maybe talk about some of the text yeah or just I mean I have my own sense of you know we&#8217;ve been talking about our own sense of how people would approach these or what how want appro okay um I&#8217;m just going to hand off the microphone to them and let them freelance up a little bit you have to kind of keep it talk the and you got a memorized I take it the 25 signs no we&#8217;ll probably have to prompt each other no there&#8217;s the by right well I think in general uh one of the things when we were coming up with this idea that I was thinking about we were thinking about is just the idea of how roadside signs catch people&#8217;s attention and no matter what you&#8217;re focused in on while you&#8217;re driving you can&#8217;t help but notice a sign and you can&#8217;t help but react to it subconsciously on some level and so the idea that we put questions out there that are kind of open-ended and make people um think even if it&#8217;s just for a second think about what that means to them and really you can take the questions either way you can you can talk about them in terms of dominant culture U uh in terms of the United States and the history behind that but you can also talk about in terms of the history of the American Indians and how um it it it takes on both sides so it makes you think about something that maybe you usually don&#8217;t think about kind of a recontextualization of culture yeah and I also just want to emphasize how um Matt and I have worked together bouncing off of each other during the all the projects we&#8217;ve worked on and um and this project is definitely that same way if we look at the text the first one says celebrate commemorate that was a big question early on in the commemoration of the lisis and Clark my centennial who is celebrating who is commemorating what do those things mean for most American American Indians it was the beginning of the end and it&#8217;s not a happy time or or something to celebrate so we wanted to bring that up to people that are just coming to this event to people that may not have been in on that discussion but who certainly understand what those words mean the next set who discovered who that&#8217;s also that&#8217;s a really interesting question I mean we&#8217;re on land right now that that was once kapoo land this wasn&#8217;t just an empty space questions of language is culture language is language culture um those are brought up and as soon as you read that and then you read I think next is who names places and do place names tell stories and then you look up and you see the water tower at page T and you think what does page t mean that&#8217;s a French name it contains an Indian name it&#8217;s about a story this place is on a little spit of land between the Mississippi and the Missouri Rivers and it&#8217;s a place where people portaged their canoes a long time ago Indian tribes early white people you cut off I don&#8217;t know 22 35 miles if page across here um just thinking about um also things that we&#8217;ve learned about how history is recorded how it&#8217;s recorded in the landscape how certain um John White anope was talking this morning about Devil&#8217;s Tower it&#8217;s a place in the landscape that tells a story that means something it&#8217;s a it&#8217;s a way of recording history so we ask in the sign boards um oral Traditions written Traditions how many ways can history be recorded um and and so we want people to start to honor other Traditions other than our own tradition as well as kind of one of the other things that seems to still be a u a factor in today&#8217;s world is the issue of land land ownership and uh one man&#8217;s Wilderness is another one&#8217;s Wilderness is another&#8217;s backyard and the idea that uh American Indians think of themselves as stewards of the land and land is owned communally it&#8217;s it&#8217;s it&#8217;s not necessarily Theirs to own it&#8217;s it&#8217;s uh something that they respect and are reverent toward in terms of nature uh and our concept of land of course is different uh the Jeffersonian grid and the idea that land gets broken down and everybody has their portion so two different perspectives you know which one&#8217;s more valid than the other are they both valid um if kind of those are some of the questions that we hope people might think about even if it&#8217;s just for a minute or two yeah that&#8217;s a good way end okay thank you thank you here with us folks he&#8217;s going to read these signs us um can I can can I get the microphone so we don&#8217;t get the um can we can we do this I want to do it without the microphone and the photo is there any way to is this directional or how about sideways and I could have him hold that so I don&#8217;t have the clip on I can go pretty close you know from here on up we can do it that way I have a question may I tape as well can you uh let&#8217;s be Clos just start reading just start reading things and we&#8217;ll move the mic as she needs if you want you can stand with your sign here and you can have the mic there and I&#8217;ll still get them in the closeup I&#8217;m sorry yeah okay celebrate commemorate who discovered whom is one&#8217;s Wilderness another&#8217;s backyard what is Wilderness what is civilization is culture language is a language culture who names places do place names tell stories how many ways can history be recorded written Traditions oral Traditions is everything you read true okay let&#8217;s let&#8217;s do it again let&#8217;s slow it down the microphone too cuz you have to hold the mic down okay I have to hold the microphone up it won&#8217;t work down that far but about a foot way we could probably do it this one do looking at the in between I think right there that should be able to get the money remember the question mark thing yeah slow it down yeah in between yeah you can slow down the pace and more time between signs okay right celebrate that&#8217;s a question started over okay celebrate celebrate close enough the question celebrate I don&#8217;t know celebrate commemorate who discovered whom is one&#8217;s civilization is culture language his language culture who names places who place names tell stories how many ways can history be recorded written Traditions oral Traditions is everything you read true okay um do you want to do one looking at the camera now getting any familiar with little bit you know what we&#8217;ll do I&#8217;ll if you lose one I&#8217;ll just repeat it to you and you just feed it back into the camera okay okay when you&#8217;re ready why don&#8217;t you just say them and then you re them and then I&#8217;ll re cut that out that&#8217;s fine okay celebrate celebrate commemorate commemorate who who discovered discovered whom whom is one&#8217;s Wilderness is one&#8217;s Wilderness another&#8217;s backyard another&#8217;s backyard what is what is Wilderness Wilderness what is what is civilization civilization is culture language is culture language is language culture is language culture who names who names places places do place names do place names tell stories tell stories how many ways how many ways can history can history be recorded be recorded written Traditions written Traditions oral Traditions oral Traditions is everything is everything you read you read true true what do you think I think that&#8217;s good that&#8217;s a good time and that should work okay are you rolling yes we&#8217;re rolling okay celebrate celebrate commemorate commemorate who who discovered discovered whom whom is one&#8217;s Wilderness is one&#8217;s Wilderness another&#8217;s backyard another&#8217;s backyard what is what is Wilderness Wilderness what is what is civilization civilization is culture language is culture language is language culture is language culture who names who names places places do place names do place names tell stories tell stories how many ways how many ways can history can history be recorded be true cool I like those you can start at any okay uh my name is Jeff Olson I&#8217;m the public information officer for the lisis and Clark National Historic Trail and this is Clint Brown he&#8217;s a grov on Indian from Harlem Montana and we&#8217;ve been out in Portage to Su Missoura for the past couple of days for the signature event here and on our way up yesterday we drove by some signs that we we saw on the side of the road and it&#8217;s an art project Bicentennial art project and the artists are Matt deamer and Karen mcoy both of Kansas City and Missouri I I was just struck by the by the signs and by the by the words on the signs they&#8217;re things that I&#8217;ve been thinking about in the last four or five years because of the bison and I know that you you know you and I have had conversations about what what kind of a message are we going to work on what kind of a message are we going to try and carry that&#8217;s not about Lewis and Clark it&#8217;s not just about science or Discovery or things like that what what what was your first thought when when you saw those signs yesterday when I&#8217;ve seen all the signs along the road there&#8217;s one that stuck out in particular and it&#8217;s still in my mind and uh the question was who discovered whom to me I believe that uh that is the thing that we are celebrating as Native Americans or commemorating I I should put it we as Native Americans have been here for years and years and years uh the idea of loose and Clark coming through our homeland is something that I should I think should be discussed more you know we and we&#8217;ve also talked about celebrate commemorate and those two years two those two words and and what do they mean and and words that should they be used but you know you and I have talked about those words before and we&#8217; both SLI we both said celebrate but I have a you know I think commemorate is the is the appropriate term but there are still some things to celebrate no matter who you are exactly what is there for the groans or for you and your family to celebrate in this place well I believe the celebration part of of the the Lewis and Clark Trail is that it is our turn as Native Americans to tell our story this time around we as Native Americans will have a chance to tell our story as opposed to what we&#8217;ve all heard or read maybe in the his out of the history book uh which I&#8217;m sure the majority of that has been written by non non-native you&#8217;ve probably done whole 15 or 20 programs in the ten many voices so far since the F Centennial began where are people with wanting to know about the American Indian story that&#8217;s a really good question uh when I first started the uh uh presentations in the 10 of mini voices I had no idea what to expect after the first one I realized that people in the United States who live side by side Native Americans know very very little about it why do you think that&#8217;s so I believe it&#8217;s we&#8217;ve all kind of been trained to believe what we have in our history books as elementary students going through school even on the reservations we got a very very small part of the Native American during the ls and Clark trip when in fact if it wasn&#8217;t for the Native Americans I don&#8217;t believe the Lan FL trip would have made it as far as it did can you think of a specific instance I know you&#8217;ve read the journals and you&#8217;ve been to a lot of other leou and cl presentations tell me a couple of instances where you think American Indian Health was critical was a could have been a a watershed or a turning point for the exavation well right off the bat as far as the uh Lewis and Clark group that traveled North or traveled West their group was a military group uh I&#8217;m sure that turned off a lot of Native Americans that they ran into but one of the plus things that for the Lewis and Clark group itself for the core too was having a female aboard and York to the Native Americans York the color of his skin represented a God to the Native Americans I truly believe that a lot of Native Americans that they encountered or they might not have encountered who watched them travel by on the river let them go because of that female and York I was just going to ask you what does a female and a small child mean on something like that a female and a small child would represent that they weren&#8217;t a hunting party they weren&#8217;t a war party the female and a child would represent that these Travelers are traveling as a family what else what else struck Us in this uh struck you in these uh I like this one though is one&#8217;s will backyard there were two signs um pretty early on in the in the uh installment installation Karen help me installation installation there were two signs that popped into my head pretty quickly when we saw him in that installation out on the highway there one of the signs said is one&#8217;s Wilderness and the next sign said another&#8217;s backyard so the the question is is one&#8217;s Wilderness another&#8217;s backyard what what does that mean oh that to me means that when the Lou Park Trail when they left West when the cor two left West from here and started into what they thought was a Wilderness when in fact they were traveling into a very very uh lived in land uh the there was a uming amount of people that they never ever seen they simply traveled along the waterways when in fact the land was inhabited by many people is there so so we&#8217;re talking that uh civilization is civilization and civilization even if another group of people say it&#8217;s Wilderness how about Wilderness out in the uh in the on the Western Plains was it all civilized land that where people lived or are there were there places or are there places uh in the west that that tribe still consider to be Wilderness yes there is the uh the tribes that were in the area specific specifically in the Northern Plains and Along the Rockies the tribes that lived in that areas were simply hunters and gatherers and they moved about the countryside throughout the year to find the best spots for instance maybe to uh pick berries or hunt meat or find wood for the winner so there was parts of the Wilderness where even the Native Americans basically left alone as soon as the uh The Core 2 came through and the the N or the uh the white people moved West all of those Wilder wildernesses were soon doubled up by people looking for beautiful places to live Beautiful Homes when in fact the Native American people they too believe those as beautiful places but they respected them so much that they would not Venture into them as much as maybe the white people did after the uh 4 two you you talk about the respect that the Indians had for these places that&#8217;s a that&#8217;s a word with a lot of different meanings but what what did respect mean in in that instance where there&#8217;s a place out there that we&#8217;re respect and we&#8217;re not going to go there why I guess why about respect that well there could have been several different reasons one of the reasons that uh right off the top of my head would have been it might have been a uh ceremonial grounds there might have been certain certain types of uh uh resources that the Native American people might have gotten from that certain area and they and then would respect that area for what Mother Earth had to offer there uh just besides the idea of ceremonial of burial grounds but there was a lot of things that the Native American people used from Mother Earth and those areas to them were they were they were sacred areas I take it though that sacred doesn&#8217;t mean that you that they never went there there were there were uses what what uh brief periods of time or how would you describe that sure there would be more than one tribe who would venture to one certain area of the uh uh for instance Wilderness there would be different tribes who would travel all to the same place maybe to get one piece of Pipe Stone and I&#8217;m talking several different tribes Waring tribes there might have been certain areas where they would go to get certain shells certain types of clay How would how would Waring tribes deal with going to the same place without Waring on one another or did those things happen the the respect for the resources that Mother Earth had to offer would be put in front of uh all of the Waring uh the Waring thoughts that maybe the uh the Young Warriors would have their their Elders would have taught them to respect no matter who was there that Mother Earth let us use these resources whether there was your Waring tribe there or an Allied tribe they would respect it so much as to let them finish what they were doing and then move in here any other you want to comment on or how many ways can history be recorded okay let&#8217;s see let&#8217;s let&#8217;s go into this uh what did you lead into this uh something else uh was funny was sad was all right um how many ways can history be recorded uh when I first started out here on the uh uh tent of many voices as a presenter one of the things that I was told by the uh the Indian liaison with the National Park Service was to look for misconception within the Lewis and Clark Journal well I sat down and I I come through the journals again and uh within the uh maybe the first three pages of the journals I found several misconceptions um I always asked the idea how many ways can it be recorded how many ways can the Native American people let the non-native crowd know about our way of life I believe this is one of the the the stepping tools right here that with the trail of Ls and Clark that the Native Americans need to use it is our chance to tell them about our history and see myself with the arena director the veteran is going to help us out here that&#8217;s dinner High w we go all right dancers last call start making your way to the east side of the Arena dancers start making your side yourselves over that east side of the Arena this time start lining up Eagle staff carrier we need you up front cing that stop in there once again registration is now closed registration is now closed getting ready for Grand entry you must make three of three grand entries oh you dancers start making your way over there start lining up get a high sign from my Arena director that c Dr grand inry song coming back over to Milwaukee Bucks flag song out to that Center drum from Memorial song to wach or who back to the milwauke Bucks Victory s back to the Bucks photography okay all right dancers this is it we&#8217;re going Grand entry at this time everybody I&#8217;d like you to please stand up all you participants so respect for these uh Eagle staff and the slag coming in at this time ladies and Gentlemen please remain standing if you are able to until this is over with this is a proper protocol that we do out of respect yeah for the United States flag and our Eagle staff so I tell you to sit down please remain standing you can give me the high sign all right Max you ready Grand entry song Gentlemen remove your hats got an eagle feather on it I&#8217;m you on the I know what sing that song now man head lady the royalty bringing in that eagle staff this time Logan men&#8217;s traditional men&#8217;s traditional by that is our flag bear and next is our powow princesses our visiting royalty Mar powow and visi royalty is our head man and head lady dancer bringing in the dancers at this time first UPA now traditional dancers stand stand next step is our one grass Dancer by in and out this time our two bustle dancers our men&#8217;s fancy dance men fancy dancea now it this time is our ladies dancers F dancers or traditional ladies dancers all women&#8217;s categor no team yet no te Junior women jingle women&#8217;s fancy boys team boys traditional team boys traditional and straight women&#8217;s jingle bu jingle and is our Junior categor excuse me FY Shaner very of our ladies coming in fancy Shaw dancers comes in our Junior categor Team categories for young menal dancer young man straight follow directly behind traditional grass dancer danc on by our boys f little boys fancy dancer little girls are R it out this time Girls Doll sha dancers hey if you remain standing ladies and gentlemen we&#8217;re going to have our flag song this is the same as it&#8217;s all right to clap too it&#8217;s the same is a national anthem for Indian people if you a standing at this time send over to the Milwaukee Bucks he hey y all right this time gentlemen you come up here and post those colors for me all right we&#8217;re going to go to Memorial song please stay ATT at this time Memorial song going to that Center drum un the</p>
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